- Lib: China bad
- Actual leftist: It's not that simple and you're being lied to.
- Lib: ok but China still bad
- Actual leftist: Here are some sources to read up on.
- Lib: ugh don't make me research, it's probably propaganda, and anyway, let me reiterate my point--China bad
Ok, this is pretty reasonable, but just for some perspective, name one human community in all of history where ABSOLUTELY NO "human rights violations" occurred. States should put a lot of effort into preventing, discouraging, and educating against "human rights violations", but expecting that there will be 0 is unrealistic and dependent on who defines "human rights".
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