https://twitter.com/Twitch/status/1572347129192132611

  • Azarova [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Funny how it took blatant bribes happening on stream for them to do anything about it

    • Parzivus [any]
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      2 years ago

      For those OOTL: A big gambling streamer sent 50k in Bitcoin to two different twitch employees while he was streaming, and laughed about it with his stream

      • dead [he/him]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        Over the last 3 years, a twitch streamer by the name Sliker sent videos to streamers and viewers asking to "borrow" money and never payed them back. It's estimated that he took between $200k to $300k. He lost the money sportsbetting on horse racing and tennis matches.

        https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/twitch-streamer-sliker-issues-tearful-apology-amid-widespread-scamming-accusations-1934582/

        here's where he said he gambled on tennis
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8O5FkejZyA

        • Fdos [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          Who the fuck gambles on tennis? WTF

          Talk about the problems of wealthy white people

          • dead [he/him]
            hexagon
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            2 years ago

            You can check his channel for yourself. He was never a slots streamer.

            It says he streamed: chatting, csgo, gta5, amogus, valorant, LoL, minecraft, warzone, rust, fifa. Never streamed slots.

            https://twitchtracker.com/itssliker

            • Justanotherone [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              Yeah like i said i don't know. I don't watch twitch. I just saw some rant from hasan about slot streamers and that's the depth i went

      • Justanotherone [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        I don't know the exact drama. Just tiktok clips.

        But some streamer named sliker who was a slots streamer had "borrowed" a lot of money from other known streamers and had his chat donate to him. And he gambled away 300k+ of money that he had gotten from friends and chat. This has been blowing up the past few days.

        And it's kinda seems like it's leading to an implosion amongst the top streamers as they all feedbpff each other for content. Bunch of drama

        • dead [he/him]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          He didn't even play slots. Sliker is a variety streamer, plays a variety of games and sometimes just reacts to internet videos. He used the money to gamble on tennis matches offstream.

          After the scam controversy was revealed, a number of top streamers began to push for a gambling ban.

  • WhyEssEff [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    fucking good, gambling ads served by people who's income source is parasocial relationships is like lacing a fucking cig. you're baiting people into the harder, immediately life-melting shit off of something already somewhat bad for you for a cash flow

  • Flinch [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    this includes gacha games too, right? :padme-1:

    ...this includes gacha games too, right? :padme-2:

    (I will say, this is a definite win, good fucking riddance)

      • Flinch [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        with the amount of money amazon makes off of poker tournament viewership and the like, I sincerely doubt those would ever be removed either. Although I'm a bit more lenient towards poker, when its played as a game and not like, sincere gambling.

        • brainwormfarmer [any,comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          i can see poker being played as a normal game

          commercial sports betting though just has all the horrible aspects of gambling and even a unique corruption aspect for the players
          and i dont see any reason it shouldnt be banned

      • dead [he/him]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        Amazon-owned Thursday Night Football broadcast is sponsored by DraftKings.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      Shouting "Come on, sweetness. Papa needs a new enchantment on his claymore..." after I kiss my dice and shake them isn't not a thing I haven't never done before.

    • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Nah, this isn't banning loot boxes, just gambling sites. The kind that don't even try to pretend they're not gambling.

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      More like the entire EA sports fanbase with a viewership that is like 5x bigger. I'd love for them to go after gacha next but leave all the AAA loot box shit around because of course they'd do that.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        2 years ago

        Still amazed we haven't seen FIFA or Madden implement Gacha mechanics.

  • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    "Bans gambling" but still allows lootboxes. So they haven't really banned gambling.

    • dead [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      A win is a win. Over the last 7 days, cryptocurrency gambling site streams account for around 3% of all twitch viewer traffic. Over the last 7 days, twitch viewers watched a collective 12 million hours of cryptocurrency gambling. With this ban, an average of 73,000 less people will be exposed to cryptocurrency gambling streams at any given moment.

      This ban is significantly good.

      • joaomarrom [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        technology once beyond our wildest dreams, employed in the noble pursuit of watching cryptocurrency gambling streams, what a time to be alive

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        2 years ago

        A win is a win.

        Its not really a win. Might as well claim Vegas banned gambling when they began issuing licenses for casinos.

        They're going after the low-rent / low-overhead operations while leaving all the major players untouched.

        • dead [he/him]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          The biggest player currently is stake (dot) com. stake (dot) com is now banned from twitch. All of the top gambling streamers are upset by this: xQc, trainwreck, Aiden Ross, etc. stake (dot) com is illegal in the US and there are no legal online slots games in the US.

          • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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            2 years ago

            All of the top gambling streamers are upset by this: xQc, trainwreck, Aiden Ross, etc.

            New Simon's Crew?

            But ok. Point taken. I did not realize how big they were.

    • dead [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Online gambling games are illegal in America, so this is effectively a ban of all crypto gambling game sites. Previously twitch was allowing streamers to play online gambling if they were streaming from Canada. stake dot com skirts laws by being located in the country of Curaçao.

      • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Online gambling games are illegal in America

        Unless it's sports betting.

          • Bnova [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Sports betters bet on random things as well such as how many dances a QB will do in a game or whether the coin flip is heads or tails.

          • TrudeauCastroson [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Sports betting has been able to creep in because fantasy sports sweepstakes are a game of skill, and then it expanded to fantasy sports for money, and then it expanded to betting on how many times a QB will pick his nose.

          • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I imagine it's a little less bad, though I'm sure the brokers do as much as they can to make it bad.

            But it's still definitionally gambling and therefore creates and takes advantage of gambling addictions.

          • AllCatsAreBeautiful [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            As others have mentioned there's an increasing amount of betting on random outcomes other than the game (called proposition bets, or "prop bets"), but these sites also use dirty tactics to lure in potential addicts and keep them coming back. Lots of sports betting sites will give you $x in free bets to start so you get in the betting cycle, and even if they lose on plenty of people, the potential addicts they find end up recouping all the losses. Also once a gambling addict tries to quit something like fanduel, the site will do an absurd amount of targeted advertising and free bet offers to get them to come back. Trueanon has a great episode about sports betting.

            Unrelated to this, but there's a new trend that my brother is into where instead of actively making trades and "playing fantasy football," he picks his players at the beginning of the season with an initial bet and then waits to see if he won or not. He'll draft 5 teams at $50 a piece just to have them sit there. Even better, now he actively places prop bets on individual games while his rosters just float.

  • keepcarrot [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    It would be amazing if Twitch did like Greece in 2003 and banned electronic gaming