• AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      maybe her husband spanks her every time she says something ridiculously dumb in public and her entire career as a Tory is just her being a bratty sub

  • Discopanda [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Jesus Fucking Christ. They will not stop until everything is privatised, every aspect of life finacialised.

    • InvaderZinn [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      English nationalists when a UK Politician says "Let's be just like America!"

      :isaac-pog: :floppy-parrot:

    • Shoegazer [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      You’ve been granted a hug ration. You may hug your child once a day.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        2 years ago

        Christ, you joke but as a foster parent navigating the fucked up Texas CPS system I feel this unironically.

  • PaleoEternalSupreme [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Liz Truss comes across as a particularly air-headed ghoul, in the sense that, no matter what you say or present to them, there is no conceivable way they would ever even ponder the idea of considering any alternative solutions to problems.

  • Tommasi [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    in bad country, ruler that was never democratially elected admits to forcing unpopular politics on her people

  • pumpchilienthusiast [comrade/them, any]
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    2 years ago

    pretty wild that a phrase that started out as pejorative to describe supply-side economics is now used by its own supporters without a trace of self-awareness or shame

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      A rising tide lifts all the boats. If you're part of the 99% of people who don't own a boat, lol fuck you, maybe learn to swim or smth.

    • Dingus_Khan [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      It's also been called the sparrow theory: feed enough oats to a horse and the sparrows will have more oats to pick out of their shit

  • InvaderZinn [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Economics is a religion, not a science.

    "Trickle down is perfect because it simply is, anything else is blasphemy! Trust your private sector clerics!"

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      Economics is a religion, not a science.

      This is always the worst leftist take. How do you square historical materialism and "you literally can't predict how a population will respond to economic policies".

      This just feels like warmed over AnCap laisse-faire Invisible Hand shit. Don't try and touch anything! The market is ineffable and omnipotent! We must not anger it by trying to observe and change things!

        • CrimsonSage [any]
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          2 years ago

          This. Neoclassical economics is a modern version of taking the augury. The fed might as well sacrifice a rabbit and check its liver for abnormalities for all the explanatory power their theory has.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          it is made with the pretty implicit understanding that they are referring popular economics

          Its often stated in proximity to popular economic views. But it only confuses the conversation, as it implies certain sociological behaviors can't be qualified rather than that the current quants are running numbers off cooked books.

            • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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              2 years ago

              Pithy quotes like that should be a jumping off point for a conversation or just meant to provoke thought

              Meh. "X is a Religion" always comes off a thought-terminating. It implies that any additional conversation is simply your orthodox view and not a logical thought progression.

              You can’t write perfect slogans that 100% describe your ideology or political aims.

              True. But you can weed out the shit ones. "X is a Religion" inevitably devolves into some personal attack on the subject expressing the belief. It is an ideological position rather than a material one.

              That's before you get into the value of religion as a useful heuristic for navigating complex social situations. Its just a bad phrasing, all around.

              “Eat the rich” is another example of such a slogan.

              Its a much better slogan because it forms a basis for class consciousness while being implicitly jokular.

            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              You can’t write perfect slogans that 100% describe your ideology or political aims

              so we're just going to ignore the plan of spray painting the entirity of das kapital onto a building

      • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        invisible hand line go up trickle down econ is absolutely a religion for those people.

        other studies of economic activity are mostly less pants-on-head but even MMT and keynsian stuff falls short of the immortal science.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          They all establish testable hypotheses which can be evaluated with data.

          The catch is in the conclusions. Neoliberals telling us that smoking won't cause cancer, climate change is fixable with a new widget, and "Head On! Apply directly to the Forehead!" is good medical advice do not somehow invalidate centuries of accumulated research and data collection to the contrary by rendering their fields invalid.

          • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            centuries of accumulated research and data collection to the contrary by rendering their fields invalid.

            is not

            invisible hand line go up trickle down econ

            • HauntedBySpectacle [he/him, comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              Invisible hand line go up trickle down isn't the only form of economics. Marxian economics exists as a field. if you want to drag orthodoxy, why don't you say neoclassical economics is a religion?

              • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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                2 years ago

                idk I specified, ask the other user.

                to hazard a guess, neoliberalism is so dominant in western politics, media, and academia that normal people have no reason to make distinctions between franchises.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          The "Spectre of Communism" line was illustrative, particularly in the context of the subsequent passages which intend to give Communism corporeal form through the Manifesto.

          The "Economics is a religion" line is mystifying. It occludes a method by which we understand human behavior and besmerches an entire field rather than the cartel of bad actors currently running the show. There's a huge gulf between "Milton Friedman is the high priest of a phoney profession" and "Milton Friedman is lying to you about where pencils come from".

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    How many tax cuts/reductions can the ruling class bestow upon themselves before there are no more taxes to cut or reduce? :cap-think:

    • AlyxMS [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Then it's time to subsidize the rich obviously.

  • Rem [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Ah yes, the west should start lowering taxes and regulations on the wealthy while slashing their welfare states, that's a thing they're not already doing and would be a change of direction of course