• D61 [any]
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    7 months ago

    He said Ukrainians shared American values and were fighting for freedom, and supporting Ukraine was supporting a democracy — all reasons the US should not give up support, he said.

    "We are not going to lose," he said. "That is not going to happen. It's not possible. We'll die before we lose."

    This is not the motivational speech they think it is.

    • invo_rt [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      democracy

      When you ban all opposition parties, critical media, and elections

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      7 months ago

      Well, I hate American values, American “freedom,” and American “democracy,” so I have no choice but to hate every other country that shares the same qualities or aspires to

    • red_stapler [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      “When is real democracy coming to ukkkraine ?”

      “We can assure you, it is coming as soon as possible.”

      “In a few months, then?”

      “That’s… rather optimistic. Though of course it depends on the contingencies.”

    • someone [comrade/them, they/them]
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      7 months ago

      "We are not going to lose," he said. "That is not going to happen. It's not possible. We'll die before we lose."

      "'It is always useful to face an enemy who is prepared to die for his country,' he read. 'This means that both you and he have exactly the same aim in mind.'”

    • Greenleaf [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      High ranking officer: “We’ll die before we lose!”

      Conscripts: side-eye-1 side-eye-2

      • D61 [any]
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        7 months ago

        Conscripts talking to each other: "We can make that happen herr Captain..."

  • PKMKII [none/use name]
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    7 months ago

    All those billions in “aid” packages, the U.S. couldn’t throw in some bullets?

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      7 months ago

      I think it’s particularly interesting because ammo companies prioritize military contracts first before civilian markets, but prices for ammo for civilians are pretty stable despite being this close to November in an election year and doing everything for Ukraine lol. It seems like they’re just chilling.

      • Azarova [they/them]
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        7 months ago

        prices for ammo for civilians are pretty stable despite being this close to November in an election year and doing everything for Ukraine lol

        The ammo Ukraine is desperately low on is for artillery (and apparently the artillery guns themselves). I don't think they're low on small arms ammo.

        Also, as an aside, the American in the article is an instructor for the 3rd separate assault brigade AKA Azov lmao. Fighting in a fascist brigade for muh frEeDoMs and dEmOcRacY!!

      • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]
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        7 months ago

        but prices for ammo for civilians are pretty stable despite being this close to November in an election year and doing everything for Ukraine lol.

        They probably don't want hogs another reason to get mad at something else being expensive.

        • Tunnelvision [they/them]
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          7 months ago

          No ammunition is already expensive it’s been expensive since 2020. It just hasn’t gotten MORE expensive.

        • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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          7 months ago

          Nah it’s been expensive since 2020 and people keep buying it because they fantasize about being an individualistic warlord in the apocalypse so they refuse to band together to boycott or strike and instead keep buying at gouged prices

  • ChaosMaterialist [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    Only Western-aligned countries would fight an obviously lopsided war conventionally.

    I wonder what mao-wave would have thought to do about a Russian invasion..............

    • Tunnelvision [they/them]
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      7 months ago

      Technically the plan was for Ukraine to invade the Donbas first and then once Russia responded, Ukraine was supposed to engage in an insurgency campaign on the incoming Russian forces.

      • ChaosMaterialist [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        Of course fedposting would look at historical guerilla movements and think, How can I use this to invade? Only a bureaucrat behind a desk could think of something so stupid.

  • itappearsthat
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    7 months ago

    have they considered like, making their own weapons like every country with a viable long-term national defense strategy or is that illegal under whatever hollowed-out neoliberal financialized state washington demanded they become in return for all the ammo

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml
      hexagon
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      7 months ago

      Kind of hard to do when Russia can hit anywhere in Ukraine with a precision missile strike. Not to mention that Ukraine no longer has a functioning power grid which sort of precludes any sort of military production at scale.

      • charlie
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        7 months ago

        It really illuminates how incredible it is, what Palestine has been able to accomplish in worse circumstances.

        • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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          7 months ago

          Remembering now that Ukraine denounced Palestine and aspires to be Israel, but it can’t even accomplish what Palestinians can do in tunnels despite the Zelenskillion dollars in aid from western allies

          • charlie
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            7 months ago

            And how despite waging asymmetrical warfare for decades, the west has no fucking clue what to do when they’re on the other side of that equation

            • Tunnelvision [they/them]
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              7 months ago

              I mentioned it in another comment, but the west actually does know how to engage in asymmetrical warfare as they’re the ones who fund and train insurgents across the globe really. In Ukraine that was pretty much the plan since initially Ukraine was supposed to invade the Donbas then once Russia responded Ukraine was going to engage them in an insurgent campaign until the Russian economy gave up due to sanctions. Obviously that didn’t happen for a multitude of reasons but that was the plan anyways.