You're failing to consider the multiplier on climate destruction and climate policy destruction Trump will do over Biden, which will make most of the third world, especially Africa and South America, unlivable for billions. Billions more will suffer, and sooner, with another Trump term.
This isn't me telling you to vote for Biden, but you're thinking this logic in short term. And you're wrong.
Don't get me wrong, Joe Biden will not stop climate change.
I genuinely don't think humanity will stop it at this point, it's about how soon it happens and how fast it spirals out of control to the point of causing billions to die.
He will continue to advance it, but not as fast.
I despise the dude but you'd be insane to over-irony to the point of claiming Trump is better for the third world even considering the damage he's doing to the climate.
The scales we're working with aren't that tight. Trump is actively deregulating industry and destroying the EPA, opening up protected lands for oil extraction, etc.
Joe Biden will at least not deregulate the regulations Obama put in place, obviously. And committing trillions to climate action is seriously a lot, even if it's less than Bernie and still not 'enough'.
Guessing a number for the difference in policy between the two over the next four years (and likely more than four, for either of them) is nonsense because neither of us have real numbers there, but the difference is not total collapse of 4 years sooner.
Even a 10 year gap or a 20 year gap for technology to develop and those developing nations to prepare saves billions of people. So yes, it does matter, despite the true doomerism of the situation as a whole we're talking the scale of billions of human lives and suffering.
Venezuela would be a better example of the real benefits of the Trump admin's inefficacy. Literally just sent like ten dudes in a boat and got immediately arrested.
I know, it's going a bit too far. We love to irony post, but the trap that comes with an entire site of irony-posting is attempting to out-irony each other, and irony slips into genuine posting eventually.
Trump is dramatically worse for the climate than Biden. Biden is nowhere near enough.
Biden is not equal or near Trump in climate response. Biden does, for all his flaws and failings, have a $1.7 trillion dollar climate action investment plan.
You're failing to consider the multiplier on climate destruction and climate policy destruction Trump will do over Biden, which will make most of the third world, especially Africa and South America, unlivable for billions. Billions more will suffer, and sooner, with another Trump term.
This isn't me telling you to vote for Biden, but you're thinking this logic in short term. And you're wrong.
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Don't get me wrong, Joe Biden will not stop climate change.
I genuinely don't think humanity will stop it at this point, it's about how soon it happens and how fast it spirals out of control to the point of causing billions to die.
He will continue to advance it, but not as fast.
I despise the dude but you'd be insane to over-irony to the point of claiming Trump is better for the third world even considering the damage he's doing to the climate.
Downvoting instinctually is shitty too.
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The scales we're working with aren't that tight. Trump is actively deregulating industry and destroying the EPA, opening up protected lands for oil extraction, etc.
Joe Biden will at least not deregulate the regulations Obama put in place, obviously. And committing trillions to climate action is seriously a lot, even if it's less than Bernie and still not 'enough'.
Guessing a number for the difference in policy between the two over the next four years (and likely more than four, for either of them) is nonsense because neither of us have real numbers there, but the difference is not total collapse of 4 years sooner.
Even a 10 year gap or a 20 year gap for technology to develop and those developing nations to prepare saves billions of people. So yes, it does matter, despite the true doomerism of the situation as a whole we're talking the scale of billions of human lives and suffering.
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I don't think that opportunity offsets the acceleration of climate death.
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What about successful coups like we saw in Bolivia?
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I'm not saying anything about Evo; just highlighting Bolivia as a counterpoint to the "Trump is too incompetent to do imperialism" argument.
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Venezuela would be a better example of the real benefits of the Trump admin's inefficacy. Literally just sent like ten dudes in a boat and got immediately arrested.
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Child brain argument.
Literally standing here arguing that hurting the environment more is the same as trying to save the environment.
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People are convincing themselves that Biden sucking must mean he's as bad as Trump or worse than Trump on every single issue.
I know, it's going a bit too far. We love to irony post, but the trap that comes with an entire site of irony-posting is attempting to out-irony each other, and irony slips into genuine posting eventually.
Trump is dramatically worse for the climate than Biden. Biden is nowhere near enough.
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You're over irony posting again.
Biden is not equal or near Trump in climate response. Biden does, for all his flaws and failings, have a $1.7 trillion dollar climate action investment plan.
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Except Biden's climate plan is a major part of his platform and when he wins it will in part be a mandate to implement that.
Versus Trump winning with his mandate to deregulate and continue to destroy the climate.
I do not need to sit here and shitfling back and forth with someone who refuses to even accept that yes, one is much better on climate than the other.
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