It is perfectly valid to criticise her for working with a sexpest serial self-admitted abuser, chaser and trans hating shit bag neoliberal grifter if she is criticising others of working with those with questionable lgbt party policies. The fact that she is a hypocrite highlights that she doesn't apply this moral belief in a principled way, and that brings to question whether there are alternative motives.
I am not the same person. Don't avoid my point. I genuinely don't care how you word it. She's FRIENDS with Vaush, you're right, that's actually worse than simply working with people you don't align with. I was in fact being more charitable with my phrasing compared to the other user.
I don't really care. This is a pretty obvious conjuration of the old-fashioned left-on-left circlejerk and I'm not going to assist you in falling for an op designed to undermine recent successes.
The op here is that the Greek left are literally the strongest left in all of fucking Europe going into a period of immense energy crisis, shutdown of industries and literal power rationing. A shitty internet forum disappearing pales in comparison to the importance the actual offline left holds in europe at this moment in time.
I do not agree with their line but ffs this is on par with the shits who attack latin american parties for not having a perfect party line on lgbt issues at highly critical moments in time. This shit ALWAYS comes from white people in northern america.
It is unfortunate that my rights are less important to you than a party that has no chance of accomplishing anything under current conditions and is just playing to reactionaries. I will never criticize anyone for fighting against transphobia wherever it is found. If it exists within the left, it must be purged. Period.
Nor will I be your convenient fucking sheep to the slaughter. Work with transphobes on your own. It would be quite concistent with much of what I see here.
Thank you for the reminder that cis people can never be trusted.
Kollontai your rights are my rights we are not different on this issue and it's kind of shitty that you've just assumed we are. Nor am I trying to slaughter you. I'm trying to get through to you that you are not being strategic whatsoever, you are not considering the material conditions, and you are demanding perfection at absolutely the wrong moment in time.
Which instance of "not playing nice" are you talking about? Overthrowing them was the right decision without a question. They were going to collapse the country back into fascism because they couldn't adequately judge the conditions of the situation. There was an actual reason that the action in question mattered, it wasn't just petty bullshit that needs to touch grass.
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He DID call trans people subhuman. For fuck's sake.
I'm talking about using him to attack Keffals because the circular firing squad has decided it is her turn.
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It is perfectly valid to criticise her for working with a sexpest serial self-admitted abuser, chaser and trans hating shit bag neoliberal grifter if she is criticising others of working with those with questionable lgbt party policies. The fact that she is a hypocrite highlights that she doesn't apply this moral belief in a principled way, and that brings to question whether there are alternative motives.
We've gone from 'is friends with' to 'works with' seemlessly, have we? Convenient.
I am not the same person. Don't avoid my point. I genuinely don't care how you word it. She's FRIENDS with Vaush, you're right, that's actually worse than simply working with people you don't align with. I was in fact being more charitable with my phrasing compared to the other user.
I don't really care. This is a pretty obvious conjuration of the old-fashioned left-on-left circlejerk and I'm not going to assist you in falling for an op designed to undermine recent successes.
The op here is that the Greek left are literally the strongest left in all of fucking Europe going into a period of immense energy crisis, shutdown of industries and literal power rationing. A shitty internet forum disappearing pales in comparison to the importance the actual offline left holds in europe at this moment in time.
I do not agree with their line but ffs this is on par with the shits who attack latin american parties for not having a perfect party line on lgbt issues at highly critical moments in time. This shit ALWAYS comes from white people in northern america.
It is unfortunate that my rights are less important to you than a party that has no chance of accomplishing anything under current conditions and is just playing to reactionaries. I will never criticize anyone for fighting against transphobia wherever it is found. If it exists within the left, it must be purged. Period.
Nor will I be your convenient fucking sheep to the slaughter. Work with transphobes on your own. It would be quite concistent with much of what I see here.
Thank you for the reminder that cis people can never be trusted.
Kollontai your rights are my rights we are not different on this issue and it's kind of shitty that you've just assumed we are. Nor am I trying to slaughter you. I'm trying to get through to you that you are not being strategic whatsoever, you are not considering the material conditions, and you are demanding perfection at absolutely the wrong moment in time.
Was the Bolsheviks not playing nice with the Mensheviks an instance of the "circular firing squad"
Which instance of "not playing nice" are you talking about? Overthrowing them was the right decision without a question. They were going to collapse the country back into fascism because they couldn't adequately judge the conditions of the situation. There was an actual reason that the action in question mattered, it wasn't just petty bullshit that needs to touch grass.