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  • HoChiMaxh [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I've never heard of sodium nitrate being lethal before, and I'm not even sure I understand how it could be. Can anyone explain the mechanism of action?

    • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      98% sodium nitrate, which basically has no use outside of the lab, can kill. The kind used for curing meats is only about 8% pure. MAYBE it could theoretically kill you if you ingested a ridiculous amount, but at that amount, you're more likely to die of something else with how much it would take.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      sodium nitrate

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_nitrite#Toxicity

      Apparently it's sodium nitrite? The article doesn't talk about the method of action though.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        https://neurosciencenews.com/sodium-nitrate-suicide-21065/

        I found this article that explains the method of action. Apparently it prevents your blood from carrying oxygen leading to hypoxia and death.

        It's weird to here complaints about this from Canada, given that the government just expanded MAID as part of operation Kill Kill Kill Kill Kill the Poor.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methemoglobinemia

          Okay so it sounds like what it actually does is convert the iron in your blood from Fe2 to Fe3, and that prevents oxygen from binding to the iron or something so you basically suffocate. Doesn't sound like a particularly painless way to go.

          • HoChiMaxh [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Yeah suffocating to death while still breathing sounds like a living nightmare

            • spectre [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              I'm not sure that's accurate (but I haven't researched). The suffocation response is induced by increased CO2 levels in the blood, not really by a lack of oxygen. Hypoxia from altitude or breathing Helium are relatively pleasant ways to go from my understanding. It seems like this would be similar to breathing pure helium but like I said I've done 0 research.

              • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                The suffocation response is induced by increased CO2 levels in the blood, not really by a lack of oxygen

                Yeah your body doesn't have the ability to detect oxygen levels, your breathing response is regulated by detecting co2 instead

      • HoChiMaxh [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        This isn't a discussion of suicide instructions - that would be a question of dosage and administration. This is a question about physiology.

        • I_Have_IBS [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          I didn’t want to know the exact physiology of this compound as I frequently have suicidal ideation.

          • xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            was there a cw on the post when you clicked it?

            i got nothing but sympathy and understanding for everyone and wouldn't blame anyone for their suffering, but this might be the only time that tyler post is accurate.