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    • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Libs believe that capitalists would never follow their prejudices when trying to make money or whatever (is legit a fucking plot point on Mad Men, another lib as fuck show).

      • fox [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        I don't know that Mad Men is particularly lib. Our viewpoint character, Don Draper, enjoys a great deal of latitude and privilege in his personal and professional life, and is only ever shown to be dissatisfied and fundamentally unhappy. He's an asshole seeking meaning in climbing the ladder and pitching the next great ad, when the whole thing is a transient charade to make people unhappy so they'll buy whatever garbage.

        We constantly see cis white men in positions of power getting away with odious acts and their lives all getting worse over time. The core message of the finale is that all these people will never change and will forever repeat their cycles of self destruction because the corporate world they live in is a husk that won't make their lives mean anything.

        It's not leftist by any stretch but it definitely isn't lib.

        • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Honestly never viewed the show as that, it most definitely doesn't have leftist tones, I always felt it had a more individualized microcosm of various individuals struggling with key aspects of themselves such as Pete Campbell finally getting self actualization at the end of his arduous journey of realizing how good his own life has ended up by finally deciding that settling is okay. In contrast Don I feel is more an allegory of finding out that there no "end point" in fulfillment and one must decide when they themselves are happy (him fucking off to join a commune though he still gets brought back into the advertising world at the end). The show is, at best a declaration against consumerism and those that manufacture it (consumption of goods, consumption of aspirations and that "ideal American life"), but it never truly comes to the core issues of why consumption has to exist within capital or that capital is the root problem behind issues of the characters (hell it discusses very little regarding the Korean War). It would be, at best, left adjacent media in some of its messaging.

    • Teekeeus
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      27 days ago

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