In my younger days I thought direct democracy was unworkable, but now I realise that might have just been my brain conforming to the bourgeois representative government status quo.

Obviously we easily have the tech to do DD these days, everyone has a smart phone in their pocket, we could do it instantly and on the go. But how you could manage a planned economy that way I’m not sure.

  • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    everyone has a smart phone in their pocket, we could do it instantly and on the go.

    E-voting is a very bad idea

    • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I’ve heard that. Is there no way it could ever be secure? We’re already assuming a successful revolution so we’re doing some kind of pie in the sky thinking as it is. And if it could never be safe to use electronic voting, how could we start to approach direct democracy? It would be far too unwieldy.

      • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        One problem with it is the sheer amount of compromised hardware, the vast majority of people would have no idea whether or not their phone is infected with malware

        Another is simple man-in-the-middle attacks, which have been declining as net security has got better, but they are still possible

        Another is that attacks on paper ballot elections are not easily scalable, if you want more impact, you need more people, and more people means it's more likely that the scheme gets blown wide open. Contrast with an attack on an e-voting election, which is very easily scalable, a single talented hacker half a planet away can change a million votes just as easily as they can change 20

        And if it isn't using the internet to electronically vote, then what's the point? Turning up at a polling station to press a button on a machine is no more convenient than marking a piece of paper. Voting machines are basically a big, expensive, hackable pencil.

      • Owl [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        The fundamental problem with electronic voting is that electrons are very small and you can't see what they're up to.

        Even if you have a perfectly secure voting system, you can't tell that's actually what's running on the machines.