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Oh fuck off with this JK Rowling "Actually, Dumbledore was gay!" shit
The fun thing is I was yelling about this years ago; Nick and Nora are American war criminals and Beth portrays them as a happy little couple in a happy little leave it to beaver suburb instead of actually engaging with the story. Coming out and claiming "akshually we intended this all along!" just confirms that they were cowards who understood what they were doing but didn't have the balls to make the MC a war criminal.
The War Veterans Hall in FO4 has a document saying "oh we are so eager to hear Nate talk"
So yes, he absolutely was megaHitler
The intro to Fallout 4 showed definitively that BGS does not fucking understand the meaning of "war never changes"
Like, it could have been something like "Nate was stationed at Anchorage during the actual events of Operation Anchorage" or something innocuous like that
But no, it's literally one of the defining moments of the series
A moment which establishes how fucked up the US is
And just gleefully pointing and being like "That's you", as if that's something cool
Fucking wizards pooping on the floor and teleporting it away
It was especially accurate to all the Yellow Peril tropes of the 50's
The fact that we still hear most of them these days is just icing on the shitcake
I have come around to the rigid and dogmatic belief that all fiction is fan fiction and authorship isn't very important.
Back in the Star Wars EU days my mantra was "it's canon of you want it to be" because the official thing where different sources had different levels of canon created massive unresolved contradictions anyway.
Also canon is not at all important when compared to just telling a good story
canon is just continuity from a more zoomed out perspective, you a gOoD sToRy freaks wouldn't tolerate that shit in an individual story unless it was deliberately using it as a device, you shouldn't accept it in worldbuilding.
Which could or could not be important to the story in question. Setting continuity is not important in the movie where John Wick shoots 187 people in the face because he's mad about his dog
Star Trek is one of my favorite IPs and they took canon out back and shot it in the head on day one
the dog one is the first story, it literally only could have internal issues.
but once you have a sequel or second episode it's always important to the story, because fucking it up undermines everything. You can go full dexter's lab and reset everything every time, but once you put on the mantle of continuity and ask us to care about events over time then you owe us better than voyager. A "good story" that ignores all the other ones and in turn be ignored by them isn't actually good.
I agree with you. Rhetorically, what is the demarcation between a one-off story and a greater world?
Oh bloody hell please just go and tell this to all Dune psychofans untill their eyes start to bleed with ink.
And this is why I play with one of those cute little "alternate start" mods so I don't have to be a war criminal. My wastelander was a regular ass vaultie who just got really good with lasers; and wants to tell Maxson's fascist ass to dance.
I'm a Chinese agent anime girl spreading communism to the Commonwealth every time lmao
I am an emotionless killing machine driven only by my hatred of newspapers
If they weren't cowards they would have had you actually do this in the intro and then pulled the camera back to show Tim Horton's.
Bottle of maple syrup rolling down the stairs in slow-mo battleship potempkin style.
I never play as Nate so all this time I've been saying 'lol lmao' at his dead corpse in the icebox out of heterophobia when I could have been going 'lol lmao' because some dumb fascist war criminal got owned.
People who always pick the female character stay winning.
Eh, the protagonist is an Amerikan war vet no matter who you choose so either way you're picking a war criminal
Alternate start mods ftw
My "Nate is NOT a war criminal!" shirt is raising a lot of questions already answered by the shirt
> guy who writes the games now
>"Not every bit of Fallout info I share is automatically canon!"
Heard it here first, Fallout 3 simply didn't happen. It's just a bit of Fallout Info he shared.
Actually Nate is a war criminal, but it's so stupid that he tried to shoehorn him as the war criminal from the fallout 1 intro
I know they're supposed to be unflattering, but I can't help but love the evolution of smug wojaks
Emil Pagliarulo is so incredibly fucking stupid he doesn't even pronounce his own last name correctly
this would be an interesting decision if they had actually made it in the game and also if bethesda knew how to write a character.
Nate and Nora are war criminals + Nate/Nora (the player character) is a synth with constructed memories of Shaun's idealized version of his parents could have been something interesting to base the MSQ around
don't you just love it when someone working as a writer is completely incapable of identifying fascism or even war crimes? Wow I love that these people have a stranglehold over an IP I loved dearly. What a cool world where media illiteracy is so rife among the ranks of artists
I was going to say "obviously he was joking, I am Emil Pagliarulo's strongest hater but he's not that ridiculous " only to find that he was not, in fact, joking.
I'm willing to accept that he was (poorly) trying to say the soldier from FO1 was the inspiration for one of the types of people Nate could be giving the broad template of "veteran"
I mean this is pretty much Emil though, he is very much an 'improv' or 'yes and...' writer imo, that's why some of the missions he designed in thief 2 are so good because there's just a lot to discover, that style just doesn't work for narratives and stuff like we can see here.
Could someone explain the missing context? I will not be going on Elon Musk's X dot com.
So one of the main devs for Fallout 4 revealed as a fun fact that the protagonist in Fallout 4 was one of the armour soldiers from the intro of Fallout 1 where they execute a canadian prisoner of war, so according to the geneva convention that constitutes a war crime since the protag participated in the execution by not stopping it
How does that even work. Weren't they frozen as the bombs were falling, didn't wake up for 200 years and would have missed the events of the other games.
The intro to Fallout 1 shows an in-universe news program depicting events from the US annexation of Canada, which happened between 2072 and 2077. The dev is saying the male protagonist from Fallout 4 is one of the soldiers in the footage executing a Canadian insurgent.
So at some point the male protag was in the US army sometime around 2072. The bombs fall in 2077, he's frozen, then he's awoken in 2287.
