Prior to the conflict, I wasn't a fan of liberals. But at least they were better than conservatives because they didn't want to glass the Middle East, protested against the Iraq war, made fun of right wing bullshit on Fox News, and didn't want to gun down Muslims or Hispanics. Or so I thought.

Liberals have gone full :frothingfash: and are literally regurgitating 1930s Nazi talking points about the Slavs. As I Russian speaker, I stopped going on most subreddits now due to the obscene racism. I've seen shit ranging from "Aktually, Ruzzians are not white or European" to "Lets break Russia up and commit mass ethnic cleansing". It's not even just Russians, I've seen a massive surge in racist posts about Chinese and Indian people since the war started.

Liberals are literally swallowing the most inane nonsense from Ukraine like "Russian orcs shocked at seeing toilets for the first time". And lets not forget the "Russian brainpan too smol to launch nukes so lets nuke them ourselves" posts all over :reddit-logo:

Anyone who even remotely suggests that we shouldn't arm and send 16 year old Ukrainians to be blown up in human wave attacks is called a Kremlin agent.

Amazingly, many right-wingers like Peterson or Candace Owens have better takes on the situation than liberals do. Does anyone have an explanation for this?

  • American_Communist22 [she/her,comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Americans are unique. Their entire history is that of colonialism, exploitation, and anti-communism. Their culture is plainly and simply anti-communism and pro-capitalism. It is shaped entirely by the most masterful propaganda campaign the world has ever seen. If they hadn't done the bare minimum and had Goebbels killed, I would say the americans brought him over and did it. The Americans are normal people with access to a fair bit of resources. They are almost normal and average neoliberals.

    Except when it gets political.

    When it gets political, or more specifically, when their media gets political, the masses are codified into the perfect system to point and direct them to each necessary political agenda. They in-fight on internal issues, sure, they support radical issues sure. But the infighting is always dragged out instead of diffused. The radicalism, instead of even addressed, pacified and co-opted into simple, easy nothings. When America needs to demonize, the American people are right there beside it. When America needs the people to forget, the people forget. When America needs a war, the people are ready for war. This is not new, this has been happening for generations. Even we truly anti-American leftists still have the vestiges of this great brainwashing eating away at us, its catchphrases and carefully programmed trains of thought gnawing away at our minds. It may never be truly broken in the near future, and it will affect our personal ways of thought for the rest of our lives.

    Germany was only fully incorporated into this sphere of propaganda recently, and even then, their leaders are afraid that the US has such dominion over the minds of the people. The Bourgeoisie of Germany and the USA are in a state of conflict and that is a reason why they aren’t as Americentric. There’s also the fact that Germany is still suffering from generational trauma of the last few times they tried to go to war with anyone, so their population is rightfully hesitant about being a part of another one. But their opinion matters little more than that of the lowly american. They agree for the most part, so they are a part of the great political engine that grinds toward our downfall. They are also at the mercy of their own Bourgeoisie dictatorship, and thus have little power over anything done at all.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Even we truly anti-American leftists still have the vestiges of this great brainwashing eating away at us, its catchphrases and carefully programmed trains of thought gnawing away at our minds.

      Word. "You are not immune to propaganda" should be tattooed on the inside of everyone's eyelids, it's so important.

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      2 years ago

      It’s comforting to think that my worst impulses are not my own thoughts, which makes this train of thought very dangerous. How do I walk the line between taking responsibility for my own actions and recognizing when someone else is choosing my actions for me?

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        2 years ago

        Other people are modifying what you see, but you can still find your way through it. The actions you take are your own unless there us no way for you to learn the truth before acting.

        • SaniFlush [any, any]
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          2 years ago

          It’s good to know that 100% of me is myself… and depressing to know that my cruelest impulses are within my control to stop, and I just don’t.

              • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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                2 years ago

                Okay, and? Like, you didn't ask me for a plan, you bemoaned the fact you are responsible for your own actions. Stop being a coward and step up. I don't know what you have to do to achieve that because I don't know your life story. Changing for the better is easy because every single better action you take, even the smallest, is a move to a better you. They add up over time.

                • SaniFlush [any, any]
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                  2 years ago

                  I’ll gladly stop being a coward. I’ll also not believe in this weird secular original sin where it’s impossible for a westerner to be a real leftist.