was moments away from signing up for CPUSA before they dropped their "we're actually democrats" tweet a few days ago. is the :PSL: a better option to join? idk what difference it will make, I assume all socialist parties in the US are basically the same.
cpusa is good but has really small organizational development. psl local members are usually cool but leadership trends from racist to transphobic so id try to focus on the connections u can make w members over being attached to them.
ive met really really cool psl members. this is from my actual experience and i would hope that people can understand this is a very localized opinion from one anon.
No, I just think you were smearing the entire PSL, which is a sort of large national org at this point (probably the largest, or at least most influential ML org in the US), because of some unverifiable, anonymous bs that runs counter to their stated ideology and orientation. I have personal experience that contradicts what you have said too. I have known a lot of trans comrades in the party, in my areas the party also does a lot of work to oppose transphobia and attacks on the lgbtq community... and I have seen them do a lot of anti-racist work. All of their lit is in opposition to racism, national oppression, and supports lgbtq rights. So if you met someone "in leadership" who espoused something racist or transphobic, I would expect that person to be disciplined or corrected at the very least.
I have seen PSL leadership purposefully cut off trans rights marches by planning their womens rights marches through the proposed path of a trans rights march. the leadership i and others have known have been known to be vengeful and petty.
i would hope that these people will be disciplined or corrected as well. and i really like a lot of psl members i have met and most of them are highly advanced and likable people. its all random bullshit on the internet anyway and the most important thing is to get people to join the struggle and concrete work.
i also mentioned that CPUSA has very small organizational development and that is likely having a huge impact on their org as well. i would just hope to give people a correct idea of what their experience may be like working with these orgs, and i would hope that it did not come off overly divisive and controversial.
I'd say you will want to look into the party documents and positions to see which party's positions best align with your own.
If you somehow think you can help claw back the Old party from the DNC sheepdog Webbites, who somehow keep getting reelected regardless of how revolutionarily militant the rank and file are, then maybe that could be a home for you. Maybe it's your local PSL club because they're the only ones around. Maybe you choose PCUSA even if you'd be the only member in your state - like a certain someone in the state of Alaska.
Point is, do your research. Dip your toes in and try to learn organizer skills and party discipline that you can carry with you onwards to a different group if you don't fit in with whatever party you join.
was moments away from signing up for CPUSA before they dropped their "we're actually democrats" tweet a few days ago. is the :PSL: a better option to join? idk what difference it will make, I assume all socialist parties in the US are basically the same.
cpusa is good but has really small organizational development. psl local members are usually cool but leadership trends from racist to transphobic so id try to focus on the connections u can make w members over being attached to them.
:fedposting: "leadership trends from racist to transphobic" :fedposting:
ive met really really cool psl members. this is from my actual experience and i would hope that people can understand this is a very localized opinion from one anon.
"and some, I assume, are good people"
:fedposting: everything is a fedpost nothing is real nobody exists nothing has ever happened in real life
No, I just think you were smearing the entire PSL, which is a sort of large national org at this point (probably the largest, or at least most influential ML org in the US), because of some unverifiable, anonymous bs that runs counter to their stated ideology and orientation. I have personal experience that contradicts what you have said too. I have known a lot of trans comrades in the party, in my areas the party also does a lot of work to oppose transphobia and attacks on the lgbtq community... and I have seen them do a lot of anti-racist work. All of their lit is in opposition to racism, national oppression, and supports lgbtq rights. So if you met someone "in leadership" who espoused something racist or transphobic, I would expect that person to be disciplined or corrected at the very least.
I have seen PSL leadership purposefully cut off trans rights marches by planning their womens rights marches through the proposed path of a trans rights march. the leadership i and others have known have been known to be vengeful and petty.
i would hope that these people will be disciplined or corrected as well. and i really like a lot of psl members i have met and most of them are highly advanced and likable people. its all random bullshit on the internet anyway and the most important thing is to get people to join the struggle and concrete work.
i also mentioned that CPUSA has very small organizational development and that is likely having a huge impact on their org as well. i would just hope to give people a correct idea of what their experience may be like working with these orgs, and i would hope that it did not come off overly divisive and controversial.
i would prefer to be doing as little harm as possible so do we think that i should delete my posts ?
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It's basically written out in the liberalism bad pamphlet.
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I'd say you will want to look into the party documents and positions to see which party's positions best align with your own.
If you somehow think you can help claw back the Old party from the DNC sheepdog Webbites, who somehow keep getting reelected regardless of how revolutionarily militant the rank and file are, then maybe that could be a home for you. Maybe it's your local PSL club because they're the only ones around. Maybe you choose PCUSA even if you'd be the only member in your state - like a certain someone in the state of Alaska.
Point is, do your research. Dip your toes in and try to learn organizer skills and party discipline that you can carry with you onwards to a different group if you don't fit in with whatever party you join.