How do these people imagine the DPR and LPR are going to be reintegrated back into Ukraine? This was going to be impossible even before the Russian intervention.
How do these people imagine the DPR and LPR are going to be reintegrated back into Ukraine?
They don't. The aim of "supporting" Ukraine with arms shipments, nuclear threats and a refusal to negotiate with Putin isn't to have Ukraine win these territories back, the aim is to extend the war as long as possible in hopes of bleeding Russia dry. That bit about the US fighting to the last Ukrainian isn't a bit, it's the actual plan.
No way i'm forgetting that, i see on my bank account at every end of the month how much the generous protection of the American empire costs us lol. And that's even before considering how much of our tax money is dumped into our military now. It's a fucking extortion racket the yanquis are pulling on us. Feel kinda bad for writing this, ofc every single LatAm country gets treated so much worse by them, but it's still completely jokerfying after a lifetime of German conservatives lecturing me on how the AmeriKKKans are actually guaranteeing our treat supply.
Maybe they'll market this as a way to end the war, and when people complain they'll say we need to be pragmatic and we need to not let perfect be the enemy of the good.
I don't think they've got much of an imagination for it at all. Just another thing we've outsourced to the bureaucracy. Congress only exists to sign (or not sign) the checks.
My guess is that they think it's a geopolitical version of the whole "these protestors are outside agitators who came from a different state to cause anarchocommunistfascist chaos" thing that various people said during the BLM protests. Just flood Crimea or the Donbass with like a hundred thousand Russians and then when The Plan is ready, make them all simultaneously Yearn For Freedom so Russia can go "Ah, fiiiine, we'll help I guess!"
How do you believe that, look in the mirror, and not realise you're a total fucking crackpot? That's the bit I can never understand on a visceral level.
I encountered this in real life with my brother. I don't think it crossed his mind/was part of acceptable discourse to consider that people involved in a civil war with the Ukranian government for the past 8 years might not really dig the Ukranian government.
How do these people imagine the DPR and LPR are going to be reintegrated back into Ukraine? This was going to be impossible even before the Russian intervention.
They don't. The aim of "supporting" Ukraine with arms shipments, nuclear threats and a refusal to negotiate with Putin isn't to have Ukraine win these territories back, the aim is to extend the war as long as possible in hopes of bleeding Russia dry. That bit about the US fighting to the last Ukrainian isn't a bit, it's the actual plan.
Don’t forget they want to drain Europe dry too
No way i'm forgetting that, i see on my bank account at every end of the month how much the generous protection of the American empire costs us lol. And that's even before considering how much of our tax money is dumped into our military now. It's a fucking extortion racket the yanquis are pulling on us. Feel kinda bad for writing this, ofc every single LatAm country gets treated so much worse by them, but it's still completely jokerfying after a lifetime of German conservatives lecturing me on how the AmeriKKKans are actually guaranteeing our treat supply.
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Remember how Europeans laughed long and hard when America said pay your fair share for your part of your own defense? Well who's laughing now?
:joker-troll:
They seem to underestimate how heavily armed the Russian Republic is.
I guess they think they can just do a rerun of Operation Cyclone.
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"Dee Pee What Now? We have to stop Putler. Ukrainians are begging for Freedom." :grillman:
They don’t give a shit, they will be happy to look the other way as Azov kills half the population
Maybe they'll market this as a way to end the war, and when people complain they'll say we need to be pragmatic and we need to not let perfect be the enemy of the good.
I don't think they've got much of an imagination for it at all. Just another thing we've outsourced to the bureaucracy. Congress only exists to sign (or not sign) the checks.
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Who exactly do they think Ukrainian forces were shelling for 8 years? :blocky-wat:
My guess is that they think it's a geopolitical version of the whole "these protestors are outside agitators who came from a different state to cause anarchocommunistfascist chaos" thing that various people said during the BLM protests. Just flood Crimea or the Donbass with like a hundred thousand Russians and then when The Plan is ready, make them all simultaneously Yearn For Freedom so Russia can go "Ah, fiiiine, we'll help I guess!"
How do you believe that, look in the mirror, and not realise you're a total fucking crackpot? That's the bit I can never understand on a visceral level.
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I encountered this in real life with my brother. I don't think it crossed his mind/was part of acceptable discourse to consider that people involved in a civil war with the Ukranian government for the past 8 years might not really dig the Ukranian government.
I'm interested in knowing to what extent people don't actually care if they're governed out of Moscow or Kiev.
You should watch Patrick Lancaster's recent interviews with locals from Crimea. They really care.
I definitely want to check that out
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