• Rojo27 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah, I had to look really close to realize that there was no line actually connecting Quinine. Feels like they wanted to make things look more interconnected than they really are to make it look "complex".

  • MitchFucko [any]
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    2 years ago

    Pharmaceuticals > Quinine > Anarchism

    paradox does a little sectarianism

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Is it that they don't have the labor movement leading to anarchism?

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      edit-2
      2 years ago

      And that they need quinine cuz they don't have dialectics triforce

  • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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    2 years ago

    "Anarchism is egalitarianism without labor movement"

    Syndicalists: Are we a joke to you?

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      I'm more offended by Pharmaceuticals and Nationalism not combining to produce Fascism.

      • TyMan210 [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        This made me curious about what does "unlock" Fascism. It looks like it's the Political Agitation tech, which requires Anarchism, Socialism, and Pan-nationalism to be researched. Political Agitation raises the minimum expected standard of living for literate pops, and also unlocks the Outlawed Dissent law, and the Fascist political party

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          unlocks the Outlawed Dissent law

          Ah, a thing that was invented in checks notes the 1930s.

          God damn this game is lib-brained.

          • TyMan210 [he/him, comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            It's better than I expected in a lot of ways, but definitely not perfect lol, as evidenced by the research tree. The whole system of interest groups seems to work pretty well though. The way it effects and is effected by different material conditions in your country is pretty cool. Like where building up your industry moves pops from the peasant group to the laborer group, which in turn builds support for the trade union interest group, and increases demand for social and governmental changes, which can lead to a revolution if they reach a certain critical mass without being death with.

            It kind of feels like they put in all their lib-brain stuff, but then had to fill in the blanks with a very watered-down version of historical materialism to make it all work properly lol

    • Nakoichi [they/them]M
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      2 years ago

      It's implying anarchism lacks dialectics. Which is funny but not necessarily true (except when it is and then it's insufferable lib shit). It also implies that anarchism is divergent from any labor movement which is ahistorical.

  • ComradeBeefheart [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    How are you enjoying the game? Would you consider it worth picking up? I've gotten used to playing some other paradox games, but I've never delved into the EU or Victoria series.