"A measure of abnormal long put volume was also examined and seen to be at abnormally high levels in the days leading up to the attacks. Consequently, the paper concludes that there is evidence of unusual option market activity in the days leading up to September 11 that is consistent with investors trading on advance knowledge of the attacks".[67] —Allen M. Poteshman, The Journal of Business

  • theSmokingGun27 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Yeah, I dont buy many what I call "day of" conspiracies for anything that happened in NYC. I dont believe that their were controlled demolitions or holograms for example.

    But its pretty clear the anthrax attack was planned ahead of time and carried out by the IC in the aftermath of 9/11. Its pretty clear that our allies warned us and we knew, and its pretty clear saudi arabia and Israel had advanced foreknowledge.

    I am very sympathetic to theories surrounding what happened at the pentagon. Between the supposed missing frames of the available security footage, the abnormal flight path paired with the pilots notoriously bad skill, there is a lot of eye brow raising facts there. Hell, Rumsfeld insisting on staying in the pentagon to do a briefing after his staff told him they needed to go to the white house because they already knew a plane had hit the first tower by his 9AM meeting and then rushing out to help people on camera is enough for me to raise an eye brow at what happened with the pentagon.

    And obviously that flight that crashed in PA was shot out of the sky by us. Probably because Bush and Cheney couldn't have imagined a more terrifying spectacle and quit while they were ahead. Amd as Brace Belden suggests, it would have been weird for them to not do something after all the preceeding attacks.

    Check out TrueAnon. Theyre doing a miniseries this week on 9/11. Great shit.

      • theSmokingGun27 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        To me Jesse Venture is how I imagine the spongebob sarcasm font.

        I dOn'T kNoW who kILLeD kEnnEdY. Do YoU kNoW? IIIII cOuLdN't mAkE tHaT shOt.

        • wasbappin [he/him,they/them]
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          4 years ago

          It's a way for me to say "I'm just asking questions." I stole it from a chapo thread where someone asked if Obama was CIA and someone responded Jesse Ventura Voice: look at his mom's job.

          I googled Obama's mom's job and I was like hollllly shit.

      • theSmokingGun27 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I won't die on any single hill. So I oscillate a lot back and forth in believing any of this stuff. But to me at least it is weird how much spread there was to the plane parts. And there are witnesses claiming they saw a passenger jet tailed by several F16s, and even reports of an all white fighter jet in the area.

        But I really dont know what happened. But the official reports are obviously not rooted in truth or a good faith attempt to discover what happened.

        • CorporalMinicrits [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Well, a plane hitting the ground at high speed while having mostly full fuel on board can cause a 2 or some mile wide radius of debris

          • wasbappin [he/him,they/them]
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            4 years ago

            Malcolm Gladwell voice: If you ask me the government should have admitted shooting the plane down, because if they didn't shoot it down that would he incompetent.

          • theSmokingGun27 [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Yeah, but doesn't that describe like most plane crashes?

            When i say I believe that something is funky, and attribute it to the plane being shot down, i really only feel like I get there because there isn't a satisfying answer to the official report.

            And I think in this case there was a full engine found miles away. Which to my understanding is unusual. And to my understanding the reports claim it rolled from the impact site.

            When people say its normal for debres to be miles from the crash site I think they usually mean sheet metal from like the wings. Or luggage caught in the wind. Not an engine.

            And in fact, they did issue a shoot down order. So its not even like you can say that would be going too far for them. The whole story is they ordered the plane to be shot down but it had crashed by the time the jet could intercept the airliner.

            But idk. Who knows, ya know?