And when less than 1% of the population (Iowa) chooses which candidates everyone gets to pick from! (Because, um, they...set their date earlier than everyone else?)
It's funny, because they want to accuse the Chinese of "groupthink", but the US presidential primaries are the perfect example of going along with the herd. There aren't enough delegates in play on "Super Tuesday" to secure the nomination for anyone, but if a candidate is behind on delegates when it comes, even significantly behind, and wins that day, that candidate is the presumed nominee. Even in states that are basically guaranteed to net zero electoral votes for one of the two parties, Texas for the D team, California for the R team. Least insane political system.
The primary system is completely fucked, without a doubt.
But the real problem is ultimately winner take all electoral college. I wouldn't begrudge a state like Texas throwing its voice behind the nominee if the 40/60 vote split yielded equivalent electoral votes for each nominee.
Sure, but you left out Hillary in 2016 and Obama in 2008, and the 2020 result was too ambiguous and overshadowed by the disastrous result-gathering process that year to give either candidate the typical post-Iowa boost. I'll admit it doesn't seem to matter that much on the GOP side, but I do think Trump's second-place finish there in 2016 did a lot to legitimize him as a candidate in the eyes of later GOP primary voters that year.
More important is the fact that the political class views Iowa as a crucial state, which gives Iowans far greater pull on policy than many other states. (Remember ethanol?)
Sure, but you left out Hillary in 2016 and Obama in 2008
Points to Iowa for not nominating John Edwards, I guess. But both Hillary and Obama were the front-runners nationally long before the Iowa caucuses were decided.
the 2020 result was too ambiguous and overshadowed by the disastrous result-gathering process
Nothing was ambiguous about how badly Biden performed.
More important is the fact that the political class views Iowa as a crucial state
Iowa is important in so far as it demonstrates whether you have any meaningful base of support. I agree that sequential state voting is dumb and the caucus model is dumb and generally speaking Presidential politics is a fucking farce. But asking the basic question of whether you can do the physical act of politicking in a relatively small state is very meaningful. Kamala Harris basically failed to show up in Iowa and it illustrated her overall weakness as a national candidate. Michael Bloomberg skipped the state entirely, only to place a meager 4th in his states of primary focus.
There's a lot of bullshit that goes on in Iowa, but one thing that isn't bullshit is proving you have the simple ability to organize a large group of people to show up in a single location and say "I want that guy to be my President".
Real democracy is when the law of the land is subject to decisions by a panel of 9 people, who are appointed instead of elected, and the appointors of 5 out of those 9 were presidents who did not win the popular vote.
Real democracy is when 20% of the population chooses the leader of your country because they live in states where there's fewer people
And when less than 1% of the population (Iowa) chooses which candidates everyone gets to pick from! (Because, um, they...set their date earlier than everyone else?)
Gotta get that vote out of the way, make more room for harvesting corn don'tcha know? :corn-man-khrush:
Iowa has not demonstrated a great track record of picking winning nominees in the last few cycles.
Bernie / Buttigieg in 2020
Ted Cruz in 2016
Ron Paul / Rick Santorum in 2012
Mike Huckabee in 2008
If they're gatekeeping the Presidential election, they're doing a terrible job. I'd be more concerned with South Carolina, Florida, and Michigan.
It's funny, because they want to accuse the Chinese of "groupthink", but the US presidential primaries are the perfect example of going along with the herd. There aren't enough delegates in play on "Super Tuesday" to secure the nomination for anyone, but if a candidate is behind on delegates when it comes, even significantly behind, and wins that day, that candidate is the presumed nominee. Even in states that are basically guaranteed to net zero electoral votes for one of the two parties, Texas for the D team, California for the R team. Least insane political system.
The primary system is completely fucked, without a doubt.
But the real problem is ultimately winner take all electoral college. I wouldn't begrudge a state like Texas throwing its voice behind the nominee if the 40/60 vote split yielded equivalent electoral votes for each nominee.
Sure, but you left out Hillary in 2016 and Obama in 2008, and the 2020 result was too ambiguous and overshadowed by the disastrous result-gathering process that year to give either candidate the typical post-Iowa boost. I'll admit it doesn't seem to matter that much on the GOP side, but I do think Trump's second-place finish there in 2016 did a lot to legitimize him as a candidate in the eyes of later GOP primary voters that year.
More important is the fact that the political class views Iowa as a crucial state, which gives Iowans far greater pull on policy than many other states. (Remember ethanol?)
Points to Iowa for not nominating John Edwards, I guess. But both Hillary and Obama were the front-runners nationally long before the Iowa caucuses were decided.
Nothing was ambiguous about how badly Biden performed.
Iowa is important in so far as it demonstrates whether you have any meaningful base of support. I agree that sequential state voting is dumb and the caucus model is dumb and generally speaking Presidential politics is a fucking farce. But asking the basic question of whether you can do the physical act of politicking in a relatively small state is very meaningful. Kamala Harris basically failed to show up in Iowa and it illustrated her overall weakness as a national candidate. Michael Bloomberg skipped the state entirely, only to place a meager 4th in his states of primary focus.
There's a lot of bullshit that goes on in Iowa, but one thing that isn't bullshit is proving you have the simple ability to organize a large group of people to show up in a single location and say "I want that guy to be my President".
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Real democracy is when the law of the land is subject to decisions by a panel of 9 people, who are appointed instead of elected, and the appointors of 5 out of those 9 were presidents who did not win the popular vote.