9/11 really bums me out.

A horrible, but perfect, terrorist attack that launched two forever wars abroad, fueled horrific global violence, created the security state etc. Plus, the attack was allowed to happen by the state to allow them to gain all this power in the planned chaos.

It's like today is the anniversary of the beginning of this flailing spiral that is damaging everyone as it goes down.

PLUS, also it's the anniversary of Chile which is a reminder of how ruthless the powers that be can be to any socialist country.

Just a bad vibe day.

  • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
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    4 years ago

    yeah honestly it's devastatingly sad. I mean, i'm not torn up around the people who died in the pentagon because that's quite literally a military installation BUT most people who died that day and as a result of that day were normal people.

    Millions of iraquis dead. Guantanamo literally still operational. Mass droning. the nebulously defined "war on terror" that's still ongoing. Mass surveillance. Defining "terrorism" as anything the gov doesn't like, ICE, the border patrol.. and of course the actual fucking torture.

    This day to me feels like nothing more than a bitter reminder of all the evil shit our country has done in the last 20 years.

    • CorporalMinicrits [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I’m a bit torn up about the pentagon because my uncle was in it that day and he didn’t die

  • thefunkycomitatus [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    It wasn't the beginning. The PATRIOT act was coming one way or another. Like coronavirus, 9/11 just exposed the wiring. It didn't cause the electrical fire.

  • Torenico [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Allende wasn't even that much of a revolutionary, he even played along, he wasn't going full Cuba... yet the Capitalist powers decided he had to die. They'll never settle with us, they can't stand a Lenin, they can't stand a Fidel, they can't stand a Sankara, Corbyn or Bernie, they'll give us NO GROUND WHATSOEVER.

    Let it be a lesson to us all.

    • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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      4 years ago

      We should always take the opportunity to wave the bloody shirt. Whenever the social democrats open their mouths about "authoritarianism," or how states like the USSR or Cuba weren't "real" communism, we need to wave the bloody shirt. Allende is your guy. You couldn't ask for a more canonically social democratic path to power. Social democracy died three years later of a self inflicted gunshot wound in a presidential palace besieged by neoliberal goons.

      This is what they will do to you if you don't stomp out reaction with extreme prejudice. This what they will do to you if you don't smash the state and bring the capitalist class to justice. We've seen where that road leads. Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. No slave, serf, or peasant has ever voted their way to emancipation. Not once.

      • Torenico [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Exactly, before the Pandemic hit we were discussing State and Revolution with a group of comrades, mostly Trots. The topic of Allende was brought up and yeah... I still like the dude and I will forever defend my fellow Marxists but he made the critical error of not going for it , I do understand that it's not THAT simple but the mistake is there, even if the Capitalists lose in the ballot box they will wage war of attrition on the left, they have almost infinite resources and many ways to fuck you up. That is also a reason of why I admire Cuba, because they persisted decades of siege.

        As a South American, that is the only Once de Septiembre we (should) care about.

  • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Yeah I feel this same way. I grew up about 2-3 miles from WTC in Manhattan. 9/11 also represented a major turn to the rapid gentrification of Manhattan beyond what Gulliani had already done.

    The number of working class people who also got poisoned in the cleanup of that shit is incredibly tragic.

  • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Public notice: Everyone remember to say "Happy Birthday" to Bashar Al-Assad on his very special day!

    • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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      4 years ago

      Well reading Bin Ladin after the fact, he basically accomplished most of his goals of drawing the US into a forever war in the middle east and costing us trillions of dollars.

    • CorporalMinicrits [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It wasn’t perfect. Even from the standpoint of how it was executed, the 4th plane failed to make the target