If Japanese devs wanna remove all of the weird troublesome hornycringe from their games, I'll support em in it.
Please just stop adding lolis ffs would be a nice first step. If Japan has less boobs on display than Korea it’s only because Japan is obsessed with underage children
I watched a video on fucked up games (morbid curiosity and just a shitty day where I wanted to turn off my brain), and turns out that the amount of horny, outright pedophilic and mysoginistic games are still being made, but the developers make an active effort to block anyone outside Japan from getting them, or even visiting their websites. Not only that but they have stated something to the lines of: "these games are intended for a Japanese audience only, if you want to play them, come here"
They do that so they don't get into major headline-causing trouble overseas and cause an international scandal which used to happen with Japanese porn games
Personally I don't consider those niche fetish eroge games to be part of "Japanese gaming" in the same way that I don't consider incest porn when I'm thinking about American cinema.
Like yeah, I get it, it's technically a game from Japan so it's a Japanese game. But it's so removed from what is considered mainstream gaming that it's porn first and game second
Her depiction is still very objectifying, only obscured by the endemic issue in the fighting game genre being the most insanely misogynistic genre outside of gacha and hentai games.
fuck off with that
a) no fucking way fighters are that high in misogyny. at the very least they consistently let you play as women, which has to put them a fair way up there. there is more to misogyny than having horny character designs
b) bridget isn't objectified? camera doesn't ogle her, she's given a story where she self actualizes and is given internality that is reflected in her character design, design isn't even horny, especially by the standards of the franchise
c) i was specifically referring to an instance where a japanese dev went back and fixed an extant shitty tropey objectifying horny bullshit character (incredibly sexualized in her og design, being 14, plus all the transphobic jokes and inherent transphobia to the bit) by giving her internality as a character and making the gender stuff not just the trap narrative and instead allowing her to grapple with identity, as well as making her both way less sexualized AND an adult woman. please do not look at this and go "this isn't an improvement"a) no fucking way fighters are that high in misogyny. at the very least they consistently let you play as women, which has to put them a fair way up there. there is more to misogyny than having horny character designs
You think I was complaining about them being male dominated? The most immediate reference is Strive and you think the reason someone would call fighting games misogynistic is because there are too many dudes? My sister in christ, the horny designs are the issue?! Have you never pressed crouch with Jack-O'? Have you never been subjected to gifs of ramlethal's thigh fat jiggling? Have you just never even looked at Baiken?
(To be clear it's an issue with the genre, not Strive specifically, I'm just using this as the immediate reference.)
b) bridget isn't objectified? . . . design isn't even horny, especially by the standards of the franchise
Alright, so you get that Strive is, uh, typical, but you're just in denial about Bridget. Even her fucking character portrait is a mild upskirt. She's no Baiken, but Baiken is not the line.
C is fair enough.
a) i obviously didn't think that, it was very clear you were complaining about them being horny. i was saying that being dominated by male characters is at LEAST as important when discussing whether something is misogynistic or not as how horny it is. i am aware that they are horny, i mentioned the designs as shorthand for that. also when going "it's more than just the character designs!" you said "have you looked at baiken???" which is an example of... character design. but allow me to rephrase: there is more to misogyny than being horny
b) "Even her fucking character portrait is a mild upskirt."
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this is a normal outfit. i see people wearing skirts like that all the time. you can see a hint of what looks to me like a pair of modesty shorts underneath, but i am only just now learning this because you have to REALLY zoom in, which i never did because why on earth would i? even if i were to concede that the art is horny (which i really don't, this is such a normal outfit. i wear skirts that short sometimes!) that does not equal objectification, which is when women are reduced to sex objects. bridget is not being reduced to a sex object here, she is a character with agency in the story and a good, resonant character arcthis is in contrast to what i was discussing in point c, which was the most important point. she USED to be exactly as objectified as you said, with her existing solely so the game could be horny about her and set up transmisogynistic punchlines.
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compare. in strive she is a person, in her og appearance she was just a sex object. there is a difference between a woman in a kinda skimpy outfit and a woman who is being objectified
Korean gamer chuds are absolutely next level, like taking out blimps to protest companies not having sexy enough swimsuits in gacha games or literally having a character make an incidental pinching gesture, because they think it's subliminal feminist propaganda mocking men for having small penises. A lot of Korean devs are fucking terrified of upsetting them. I would be unsurprised if there actually is a trend of Korean gamea being more overtly fanservicey as a result.
they should all defect and make Pyongyang Racer 2
https://archive.org/details/pyongyangracer
it's kinda annoying to get flash games running though
Ah yes, South Korean grindfest mmo trash with busty elves, such a high bar.
Unlike you emotional wokeies, I am a being of reason. If you had half my IQ you would realize that it is simply more efficient in terms of time to enjoyment to only play video games that make my pp hard. I save literal hours a day not having to interrupt my gaming sesh to look up hentai.
They probably call Japan something a lot less flattering a lot of the time.
Usually just "those colonizers," though reactionaries in Korea are usually pro-Japan.
I'm still mad that "big tiddy jiggle simulator" isn't a genre tag on Steam so I have to buy the game first to see if I can masturbate to it...
Pyongyang Racer is the only video game developed in the DPRK that I'm aware of
There might be others, but it's the only one I've seen.
I can't believe HB has already forgotten about Hunting Yankee
https://www.pcgamer.com/hunting-yankee-is-a-north-korean-game-about-shooting-us-soldiers/
I remember playing this with a friend for shits and giggles back when Flash was a thing. Any way to emulate it? Last time I checked I couldn't get it to work
LTT literally just made a video on that topic! I haven't watch it (and probably won't), so I can't make any promises about quality.
https://piped.kavin.rocks/watch?v=HEbaKDkzomI
I vaguely remember reading about how, at the time, one of the most popular apps on the Koryolink smartphones was a strategy rpg video game based on Boy General (DPRK animation that's super popular with people of all ages). You can also get smartphone games from stores that have things like puzzle games, virtual pets, and even clones of certain western games like angry birds. There's also a bunch of arcades and entertainment centers in Pyongyang that were funded by Kim Jong Un (along with his funding of things like water parks, amusement parks, skating rinks, etc.) more info here: https://www.youngpioneertours.com/video-games-in-north-korea/
"Am I missing games that completely debunk this?"
"Send me porn game recommendations"
