Jesus Christ 120? That's approaching small natural disaster level :desolate:
Jesus. How the fuck do these things happen, doesn't sound like there was a panic
It is not clear what prompted the crowd surge, although some local media reports said a large number of people had rushed to the area after hearing an unidentified celebrity had been there.
that one pic of a crowd seems like they are pretty young in that crowd. someone probably said BTS was there.
mass death from kpop and western cultural import, there's something fucked about that.
Most of them that I'm familiar with are caused by cops (see also: the large crush event in Indonesia earlier this month) but yes poor crowd planning also leads to this
Yeah it's almost always the fault of the organizers. See also the last Love Parade in Germany in 2010.
https://nitter.it/KasulisK/status/1586434046489690112#m
146 now
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(CW: Death) https://piped.mha.fi/watch?v=BRWcy3_fKZs
That video is why everyone should take CPR training. Only two people in that crowd are doing it correctly. The shallow compressions the others are doing won't circulate blood properly. At best even the guy in the back and the left only stand about a 10% chance of getting them back, but that's the amount of force used in emergency. I'd put a backboard under an ambulance patient just to be able to put more arm strength into it.
I took a CPR course long ago, and I was surprised at how much force I was told to put into the dummy.
I don't know if I'd be able to get over the mental hurdle of putting that much force into a person in distress. It's a weird thing to get over because it just feels wrong even though it's proper.
I have no idea how I'd handle giving CPR if I had to do it and with how long ago I took that course.
At that point it's a parasympathetic nervous system response. There's such an overwhelming urge to do something and you can't double kill them, so I approach it with the same focused rage of fencing or fighting.
you can’t double kill them
:this:
If you’re doing CPR correctly there’s a decent chance you’ll be breaking a few of their ribs.
I was similarly squeamish with cricothyrotomies where they don't have enough of a throat left for a breathing tube so you cut them a new one beneath the Adam's apple. Then I saw what riding a motorcycle without a helmet looks like and all of that melted away for simple maths. I can't fuck you up more than you've fucked you up, but this one neat trick might save what's left. It's totally dispassionate because it's just the last resort to preserve some sense of basic function. If a patient is pissed off at me because I'm hyper-aggressive with tourniquets or broke their sternum doing CPR, the fact that they're alive enough to be angry is a win in my book.
Local media said around 100,000 people headed to Itaewon for the Halloween festivities, which were the biggest in years following the easing of COVID-19 restrictions in recent months.
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Gotta love it when some people in this thread use this horrific tragedy to be like "thats what you get for being a capitalist country, south korea"
Sometimes I feel Souh Korea is where the shittiest American ideas go to get turned up to 11.
Harvey Weinstein sexually harassed a bunch of celebs? South Korea's entertainment industry is Weinsteins all the way down.
Protestants holding the government hostage? Give them a death grip on politics when half the population isn't even Christian.
America's unending wars? Amateur hour. How about a decades long war that still shows no signs of ending.
Lamest Halloween party ever. None of them are even wearing costumes.
- covid
- police thugs
- rising CO2
- taping your mouth shut bc tiktok told you to
- crowd crushes
5-way handshake
Video gives me flashbacks to a Rage show I attended. People started falling like dominoes. Scary as hell. I've never felt so helpless in my life. Luckily there's that moshpit morality where people pick each other up. Poor fucking kids
56 men and 97 women among those killed in Seoul crowd surge
From CNN's Gawon Bae in Seoul
Are women more susceptible to crush injuries?
I think certainly when the object likely to be doing the crushing is a man's body, not to mention the relative prevalence of osteoporosis in older women
....god damn, horrible
I think certainly when the object likely to be doing the crushing is a man’s body,
It's just the forces on the body compressing your lungs so that you can't breath. The same forces also constrict your blood vessels. It doesn't really matter who it's from. It could be a bunch of other men, a bunch of other women, a mix of men/women, or a pack of chimpanzees for that matter. We don't know the ratio of men/women there. It could be that more women died because there was a higher proportion of them there, so it might be better not to prematurely speculate on that.
not to mention the relative prevalence of osteoporosis in older women
The vast majority of those people were young adults in their 20s/30s, so I'm not sure what you're trying to suggest with this? Also, in these kinds of crowd crushes what kills you is suffocation, so let's not engage in unfounded speculation.
Here are some resources:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldOprmqSt7o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-uHtGKLDD0
