Last night I met a guy at Halloween party who told me he was a Free Mason. He was hilarious and fit right in with my friend group. Upon asking him what the Free Masons are he just said “basically we’re a bunch of dudes who get together for pancakes on Saturday.”
I’ve also heard conspiracies about the group in the past, and I even had an ex coworker once tell me the Free Masons were a cult and were out to get him.
Anyone have any insights? The internet is not very helpful.
IIRC the Klan was always very anti-Masonic, as well as anti-Catholic.
A whole lot of these secret (or at least private fraternal) societies really don't like each other.
The freemasons are a very decentralized organization like a motorcycle club or a very badly managed franchised restaurant chain. The structure of lodges can be radically different from each other, and while the freemasons aren't exactly a shining beacon of leftist values (p2 was literally a fascist terrorist group) the actions of one lodge does not speak for all freemasons. It would be unleftist for us to persecute against freemasons for simply being freemasons. This isn't to say that the freemasons are immune from criticism because they are a decentralized organization, but generally they usually pose no threat to our goals and have been our bedfellows in a few struggles like against nazism and the civil rights movement. We should target the bad actors but the organization itself has a right to exist, under scrutiny of course. We should apply the same criticism to it like we would to the church or college fraternities, ideally they wouldn't exist but we have much bigger fish to go after and they aren't overtly hostile to us. Let me say again that decentralization is not inherently why we should tolerate freemasons, the klan operates in chapters and they need no explaining why they are bad, but the hells angels, they do have good people in their ranks, they do have some relatively good chapters, they are not explicitly racist or white supremacist in any way, but we should seek to abolish the hells angels because their ideology will always be fundamentally opposed to our own, it will always have white supremacist leanings that cannot be erased away. The actions of the bad chapters will always outweighs the actions of the good ones, you cannot be a hells angel without fundamentally supporting something that we don't. Masons are not explicitly white supremacist, that is why we shouldn't fuck with masons. It would be like targeting Jews because of the actions of Israel. Like don't. It's a line we shouldn't cross, we must be careful as to who it is acceptable to discriminate against and masons are not one of those people, though they are close to being so.
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isn't it rich white guy club
that alone makes it hella sus
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EDIT: it’s a brand new account lol
I never said we should harass or otherwise target freemasons. They're mostly a peculiar harmless organization that serves as a boogeyman for conspiracy theories nowadays.
My thinking was more along the lines of "what if we had our own kind of institution comparable to this, that wasn't quite a vanguard party itself, but opened up new communistic directions".