Maybe as an experiment, let's try to understand each other's positions ITT and not have the same boring old arguments (because they're boring).
Edit - nice discussion everyone, thanks <3. I'm seeing a lot of responses from ML and not many from anarchists, but maybe I'm the only anarchist on this site lol
(I’m a Marxist-Leninist)
Maybe a hot take, but in the baby stages of organizing your community and workplace (especially speaking about organizing in the west) there really shouldn’t be any fundamental differences between how MLs and Anarchists organize. I don’t say this just because we can’t afford to let ideological divides exist, but because at the core of building class consciousness and a revolution we both really need almost all of the same working class institutions in place to successfully revolt against a capitalist state.
Further, to do real dialectical materialism you explicitly can’t be ideologically dogmatic and must methodically apply the best methods of organization through real, thorough study of your community. Mao had some absolutely banger quotes talking about just this
From Mao in “On Contradiction”:
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When I see western MLs being condescending or dismissive towards anarachists I can’t help but get pissed off. They constantly ask these anarchists “where is your successful revolution? What has anarchism accomplished?” to which all I can think to say is “where is YOUR successful revolution, and what have MLs in the west accomplished?”
In the same breath these MLs will praise Mao though, and they love Lenin, which is funny because if they did any amount of close reading of Mao/Lenin’s texts they’d see something completely contradictory to their personal dogmatic approach to fostering socialism. Lenin and Mao as we know them would not have ever existed, and their revolutions would have never have been possible without the anarchist factions of leftists in their early development both organizationally and ideologically. These anarchist influences are especially obvious in Mao’s writings and ideology, which should be no surprise since anarchism was the dominant faction of leftist intellectualism in China for quite some time. The best dunk on dogmatic MLs of all time came from Mao himself
Also from Mao in “On Contradiction”:
When I started reading Mao, I was amazed at how much of the mass line particularly seemed like a manual for practical anarchism
Mao’s works are criminally underrated. He does such a good job of providing a concrete example of how learning from the great wisdom of Lenin and Stalin in their hindsight of the October Revolution, in addition to Marx and Engels (and let us not forget the many anarchist intellectuals who influenced Mao as well, especially in his early years) all helped in carrying out a successful socialist revolution and an anti-colonial war simultaneously. Not to mention, we also get a window through Mao’s writing of nearly 5 entire decades of an active account of fostering the development of socialism from early organizing through anti-feudal wars, through civil war, through anti-colonial war, through to a victorious socialist revolutionary war, and post-war state function. Just such a valuable archive that reaches so many different topics and scenarios.