Maybe as an experiment, let's try to understand each other's positions ITT and not have the same boring old arguments (because they're boring).

Edit - nice discussion everyone, thanks <3. I'm seeing a lot of responses from ML and not many from anarchists, but maybe I'm the only anarchist on this site lol

  • TyMan210 [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I was actually just about to point someone to the PCUSA last week, since they're wary of the CPUSA and at least our local PSL. I looked it up to see if it was still a thing or not, and saw the whole thing with the website, so I didn't really know what to think about it lol

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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      2 years ago

      The Midwest twitter-posting wreckers were members of the media department and had stolen most of the credentials to online party property and the online and offline identities of everyone in the party.

      They stole what was never theirs and are lashing out by throwing every accusation they can to smear the party in hopes to legitimize their sectarian split of 20 terminally online armchair ultras.

      Also here's the actual website

      • TyMan210 [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        I kind of figured it was something like that. If any of the claims actually had some substance, I assume it would have come up elsewhere at this point.

        I hope it doesn't hurt the party too much. I don't really have the time or resources to really commit to party work right now, but I've kept an eye on PCUSA for a while, it really looks like a good party from what I've seen.

        Thanks! I'll send it along when I talk to them next

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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          2 years ago

          I don’t really have the time or resources to really commit to party work right now, but I’ve kept an eye on PCUSA for a while, it really looks like a good party from what I’ve seen.

          Yeah that's the second big thing that gets us to loose people (first one being internet people with internet ideologies as their personalities encountering the reality that you actually have to do work and not just post hot takes eat chip and lie online).

          It's honestly understandable, the honest to God living conditions of so many people that join really reveals that the American economic systems designed to grind you down into a little nub that can barely function beyond going to work, and going home to recover. God forbid you are becoming a parent or are a parent and you'll have so much less time to be yourself.

          I always have sympathy for anyone who's just to busy trying to stay afloat but have their hearts in the right place.

          • TyMan210 [he/him, comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            I guess it's kind of ironic, my commitment to party organizing is the exact reason I'm not in a party lol, because I don't want to join one unless I can actually devote the time and effort to it that it deserves. I'm already a dues paying member of the IWW, the SRA, and a local org, and I'm only even remotely active in the last one.

            That's pretty much my situation right now though. My wife is pregnant, so I'm working extra to try and prepare as much as I can. I worked 51 hours last week for example lol. I'm still taking every opportunity I can to read theory, or listen to a communist podcast, or anything else I can do to develop my understanding, but it'll probably be a while before I can really commit to anything that takes more than like an hour or two a week

            • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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              2 years ago

              Ah we had someone in my cell that just had a kid and had to step back from the party altogether because of how rigorous it is to take care of a baby.

              Just gonna tell ya based off of what he told us, you're in for one hell of an adventure when your kid's born. You'll most likely enjoy it and won't trade the experience for anything, but damn will you be effin tired.