https://nitter.net/marina0swald/status/1588256345857589248

I didn't watch the episode because their 9/11 episodes led me not to trust them on conspiracy stuff. It looks like I made the right call. Did they really buy the Warren Commission? Lol. Lmao.

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            • LiberalSocialist [any,they/them]
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              I’ll be honest. I have no idea what JFK’s head even did that everyone keeps referencing. I just know he got shot when in a car(?) and died. Everything else I’ll have to look up. But it’s not like he was leading a vanguard revolution to overthrow capitalism. I don’t see why the CIA would shoot him.

              But, like, what’s even the point of discussing this? Why does it even matter? We all know the CIA does evil shit all the time. We already have plenty reasons to be mad at them and hate them and oppose them. What’s the point in battling over something that happened decades ago that may or may not be true and has basically zero impact on anyone’s lives today.

              That’s like my whole gripe with conspiracy theories. They’re just pointless.

              • RedDawn [he/him]
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                But, like, what’s even the point of discussing this? Why does it even matter?

                This is actually something Parenti directly addresses in the lecture I linked you, since it is something Chomsky and others say. He responds to a lot of similar criticisms in that lecture. Basically there’s a reason that they have gone and continue to go to great pains to conceal the truth and smear anybody who questions the narrative. A popular American president getting offed by the unelected national security state would massively undermine the legitimacy of the government and illusions about it being democratic. It’s not some nothing burger.

              • TankieTanuki [he/him]
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                The truth behind JFK's murder completely delegitimizes any claim to American democracy, so exposing the lie is one of the most subversive things you can do.

                I don’t see why the CIA would shoot him.

                Because the fascist wing of the national security state hated Kennedy for not going full hogs out at the Bay of Pigs, and because he was getting in the way of a full-scale invasion of Vietnam.

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                They are pointless because you literally are writing them off on principle. You just are admitting you don't care if the CIA actually did x,y,z crime cause they do bad things all the time. so why then are you upset at the idea that they killed JFK? For that matter, if you literally only know the bare-bones of the official story why are you dismissing things?

                No investigation, no right to speak

              • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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                Why did you chime in on a topic that you don't know the first fucking thing about?

                Jesus Christ, terminal fucking American brain.

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          • Vncredleader
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            The experts in the case of JFK being Alan Dulles?

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        Marxism is based and communism is poggers

        Can't tell if you're doing a bit throughout this whole thread or you're just really young/naive

      • Vncredleader
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        conspiracy theories are literally just speculation about conspiracies to commit a crime. Define conspiracy theory for us instead of being high and mighty and calling them all antisemitism and alex jones shit.

        You are just being a dismissive lib to the majority of people here, hell the majority of leftists with this attitude. Like I said elsewhere, is Coretta Scott King wrong, a right-winger, or antisemitic because she believed James Earl Ray did not kill her husband? Actually answer that, because your flagrant broad statements imply that to be the case. Or are things complex and conspiracy theories are literally just theories about conspiracies. Conspiracy being an actual thing,

        a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.