• nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    imagine being a catholic priest and not having the wisdom to just keep your mouth shut about pedophilia

  • SmokingFish [none/use name]
    hexagon
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    2 years ago

    someone got mad at me for this on twitter because apparently the priest is autistic, so let me just point out that all this is in the context of a thread where he tries to blame the catholic abuse scandal on allowing gay priests

    • SmokingFish [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      being ND is not an excuse for supporting pedophiles. hope that helps anyone who is uncertain.

    • RION [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      "It's okay to normalize pedophilia if you're autistic" is not a take I was expecting to hear about today

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Wow ok perfect this can serve as an explicit "shut the fuck up" that may have been only an implicit "shut the fuck up"

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      yes because what the Catholics could really do with is more shame around sex and normalised covering up sexual behavior.

      they probably just didn't try that

  • Lester_Peterson [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    ... reminder that 82% of Catholic priests report regularly fearing allegations of sexual abuse against them. Something that is definitely very normal to live in fear of for people that do absolutely nothing wrong.

  • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Hey, let's get sex advice from an institution where nobody has been allowed to have a healthy relationship in a thousand years.

    • SmokingFish [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      seems like a good plan that won’t result in any widespread societal harm

      :blob-no-thoughts:

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Cathloc Church in 800ad "hey, priests can marry, dudes can marry each other if they want to, and hey, we're not gonna check the genitals of anyone who wants to be a priest too closely because who cares?"

      Catholic Church in 21st century: "we're deeply hurt that you accused us of being a cult of child rapists at a time when we're paying out unprecedented settlements for raping so many children"

    • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      I read somewhere, perhaps on this site, that the church banned marriage in order to prevent priests from having kids. No kids means no inheritance, so the priests' property would instead pass to the church after their death.

      • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Specifically, from having kids born in wedlock, who could legally inherit their property. Having bastards was fine by them, and the church actually has a secret fund to pay alimony for kids fathered by priests until this day.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I am once again reminding you that "both sides" people almost always skew toward the horrible side of whatever it is. :punished-bernie:

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    The issue is absolutely not any kind of paraphilia. It's men who have social power using it to control and abuse people who do not. I hate that it's become complete normal to refer to abuse of teenagers with the language of mental health. It obscures the reality of abusive social, religious, and cultural power relationships.

  • SerLava [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Oh my god

    Nobody is talking past anyone. Pedophilia just colloquially means kiddie pervert. Nobody talking about specific kiddie perverts is getting confused like "OH I thought you meant he was a PEDO but it was only HEBEPHEBEPHEHEHBE this changes EVERYTHING!" it just means the same thing.

    "a PEDO was trying to molest a 14 year old" is not some distortion or mistake that makes any person not understand what is happening.

    Whether the judge and jury need to throw up in their mouths with slightly more frequency is not a practical distinction and that's exactly why those terms are nearly useless and became compressed into one.

    Notice how "Child murderer" doesn't have 3 or 4 age subcategories? We can still just read what their age was and get more disturbed if we feel like it. What are you gonna start calling it "Hebecide" what the fuck

    • laziestflagellant [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      oh the context of this makes it significantly worse

      edit: the context is that he's saying that 'the catholic church doesn't have a pedo problem it has a gay problem because most of the sex abuse was actually done by evil gay ebebehigils and not true pedos'

      • Commander_Data [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        They're just gonna ignore the tens of millions of gay men in the world who manage to not become catholic priests so they can molest chikdren.

  • MoneyIsTheDeepState [comrade/them,he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Mm, yes, let's negotiate which types of abuse you creeps are allowed to do. My starting offer is that you stop abusing the ability to live, Father

  • SmokingFish [none/use name]
    hexagon
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    2 years ago

    Link to the libertarian priest: https://twitter.com/frmatthewlc/status/1592898806693376002

  • Fishroot [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    well yes there are the two sides to the issue, father:

    side 1: wall

    side 2: pit