Oh wow what the hell.

  • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    The brits can't rule themselves. Have they ever considered becoming a colony of Ireland or India? You know, let the civilized people govern and uplift them.

  • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I really thought the US was gonna collapse faster and years before the UK, but it’s starting to look like the entirety of TERF/Pedo/Awful island could spontaneously catch fire next week

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      Half the island is just a bank. And most of that bank exists as a tax shelter for foreigners.

      At least the US has mining, manufacturing, agriculture, tech... The hell does the UK even do anymore? Fish?

    • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      There's a reason the US was the empire that took over when the British fell. It's more economically productive, way bigger, and has more advanced mechanisms of social control.

  • save_vs_death [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    it's gonna get worse once the state's own austerity won't be enough and they'll have to rely on an IMF loan contingent on absolute and complete shock doctrine

  • hypercube [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    what worries me is this is technically survivable for the classes that keep the tories in power. especially since we'll probably see some kind of handout to the olds at the cost of the proles to keep their power base intact, alongside the continued fascist scrapegoating of randomly selected minorities (apparently it's the Albanians now). most of our unions are way too weak to do anything, the labour party's fucked, afaik most of the various communist parties are unhinged 100 person trotskyite transphobia fanclubs. tusc (lol) and the greens (lmao) are maybe closer to an actual socialist alternative, but still very much a tiny minority of the political sphere and both have serious issues, especially the succdem greens. the wobblies unionised one bakery recently, so that's something. maybe it's time for their big comeback... apologies for doomposting, I should really get back to sleep

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      old people are not a social class. the great conflict isn't between proletariat and the elderly.

      the people who keep the tories in power are Rupert Murdoch

      • hypercube [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        you're right, although it's not just Murdoch (he'll be fine no matter what), I should have said specifically the petit bourgeoisie since that's the olds I was talking about. Not just elderly people but small scale landlords, small business freaks, etc, who make up a significant portion of the tories' base and social clout (especially the ones that call themselves "working class" even after making bank on Thatcher killing Keynes)

    • save_vs_death [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      i don't know, ole' lizzie fucked over everyone on a mortgage, that is a huge chunk of their voter base, the triple lock on pensions? they're sheepish on keeping it going amidst historic inflation

      • hypercube [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        hopefully! but part of the problem there is then we get Starmer, he runs headlong into the same contradictions, and the tories successfully win it back the election after on the basis that Labour was not racist enough & too loose with the Public Purse (not as actively tearing the copper wire out of the walls)

  • Coolkidbozzy [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    at what point do conservatives break rank and call for a general election to avoid riots

    surely they can't get away with austerity when predictions are already this dire

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      The population still believes that national debt functions like household debt because the BBC pushed that narrative last time austerity was done in 2008. It worked and it seeped deeply into the population which now genuinely believes that you need to get the national debt to zero to be responsible with your money, like a household, instead of borrowing like fuck and making investments that outpace the cost of the borrowing.

      National debt as a % of GDP was 240% when we borrowed to build a million houses, start the NHS and change the country post ww2. Today it's only 80% but people still think we fucking need more austerity.

      This attitude is a nightmare. It's the hardest problem in the country. It's the reason that people do not support the left, they genuinely believe that spending at this time is fiscally irresponsible instead of what is needed.

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Fr this is becoming the type of powder keg even the most awful conservatives usually have to address because otherwise people start setting shit on fire

  • HornyOnMain
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    2 years ago

    :doomjak: It's our turn for a century of humiliation + shock therapy :doomer:

    • WeedReference420 [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      A century of humiliation where the people being humiliated are poor people fighting over scraps in food banks while the British establishment both Labour and Tory anaesthetise themselves on vintage champagne and luxury food at wherever the new Little St. James is. 'Great' Britain indeed. :rust-darkness:

    • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      You mean a bunch of Germans will move there for perfectly legitimate civilian reasons that have nothing to do with fleeing war crimes tribunals?

      • kristina [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        I mean yeah the Saxons probably did do a lot of war crimes

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        I mostly meant that it once boasted some of the highest standards of living in the world and then it dropped so low that it goes back and forth from being a developing country to a developed one. But yeah that too.

  • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    this is so sad this is so sad can Zelensky get the new model of Poland destroyer missiles only £100 trillion

    • Straight_Depth [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Scotland independence referendum in 2023 -- the funniest outcome is that it will fail by a sliver of a percentage. Bafflingly, it's polling extremely poorly

      • Sophie [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        yet to see campaigning though, before campaigning for the 2014 referrendum it was polling below 40% in favour of independence :3