We have evidence through the bones of ancient humans that "less advanced" societies provided long term care for disabled members of their group. It never ceases to amaze me that modern libertarians want to make society more savage than these "primitive" societies.
If I remember right, some of the earliest dated signs of "civilization" we've found are skeletal remains where a broken bone was set and allowed to properly heal. Even in the very beginning, the thing that first set us apart as more than apes with fire, was devoting resources to care for people who weren't able to produce those resources themselves, even if just for a time in that example
Totally. in a very real sense, "inhumanity" as a descriptor for the kind of society that libertarians want isn't just a metaphor. They want us to be less than human.
All the while, they think it's the opposite, assuming they actually buy into the whole "capitalism is human nature" line. It's the kind of thing that really makes me think about the concept of "re-education". I know it's a meme most of the time it gets brought up, but at the end of the day, something has to be done with people like that. And executing everyone to the right of an arbitrary line definitely isn't it lol
Totally! I've re-educated myself, come to think about it, and I'd I be dumb to think that the process is over. I'm sure there are still plenty of :brainworms: lurking around in my noggin, just waiting to pop out and surprise me.
I mean I definitely have no tears to shed for dead fascists, and I have no qualms about it when it comes to people taking up arms to harm people or prevent a revolution. But in a post-revolutionary context (especially in the US), there's going to be millions of people who hold those beliefs, or ones like them, who just didn't want to or couldn't fight for them. Those are the ones I mean, those who are objectively reactionary, but who don't pose a direct or imminent threat to people or the transitional state. Idk if the answer is "re-education camps" or a cultural revolution, or what, but there's something that can be done in that situation.
I remember reading an article about how a disabled person in prehistory died from being overfed with figs. The body was buried with care, the archaeologists painted a picture that this disabled person was cared for, but they did nothing but feed them figs, like all their teeth were rotted out and they were relatively young. The person couldn’t walk, they weren’t a child, this prehistoric community went out of its way to feed a disabled person figs until they died. I guess figs made them happy idk? I just always found it funny,
That's a hell of a way to go! I'm so curious about why they did that. I love reading about archaeology, but I feel like I always just end up with more questions that will never get answered. Or we may think we know the answer, but we're totally off base, Motel of the Mysteries style.
We have evidence through the bones of ancient humans that "less advanced" societies provided long term care for disabled members of their group. It never ceases to amaze me that modern libertarians want to make society more savage than these "primitive" societies.
If I remember right, some of the earliest dated signs of "civilization" we've found are skeletal remains where a broken bone was set and allowed to properly heal. Even in the very beginning, the thing that first set us apart as more than apes with fire, was devoting resources to care for people who weren't able to produce those resources themselves, even if just for a time in that example
Totally. in a very real sense, "inhumanity" as a descriptor for the kind of society that libertarians want isn't just a metaphor. They want us to be less than human.
All the while, they think it's the opposite, assuming they actually buy into the whole "capitalism is human nature" line. It's the kind of thing that really makes me think about the concept of "re-education". I know it's a meme most of the time it gets brought up, but at the end of the day, something has to be done with people like that. And executing everyone to the right of an arbitrary line definitely isn't it lol
Totally! I've re-educated myself, come to think about it, and I'd I be dumb to think that the process is over. I'm sure there are still plenty of :brainworms: lurking around in my noggin, just waiting to pop out and surprise me.
For sure, I still sometimes react to something the way my old :LIB: self would have, and have to stop myself and re-evaluate things
it can be :shrug-outta-hecks:
I mean I definitely have no tears to shed for dead fascists, and I have no qualms about it when it comes to people taking up arms to harm people or prevent a revolution. But in a post-revolutionary context (especially in the US), there's going to be millions of people who hold those beliefs, or ones like them, who just didn't want to or couldn't fight for them. Those are the ones I mean, those who are objectively reactionary, but who don't pose a direct or imminent threat to people or the transitional state. Idk if the answer is "re-education camps" or a cultural revolution, or what, but there's something that can be done in that situation.
I remember reading an article about how a disabled person in prehistory died from being overfed with figs. The body was buried with care, the archaeologists painted a picture that this disabled person was cared for, but they did nothing but feed them figs, like all their teeth were rotted out and they were relatively young. The person couldn’t walk, they weren’t a child, this prehistoric community went out of its way to feed a disabled person figs until they died. I guess figs made them happy idk? I just always found it funny,
That's a hell of a way to go! I'm so curious about why they did that. I love reading about archaeology, but I feel like I always just end up with more questions that will never get answered. Or we may think we know the answer, but we're totally off base, Motel of the Mysteries style.
yeah but how do you know those disabled group members didn't PAY FOR that care through some sort of insurance coverage plan like a RESPONSIBLE ADULT
Oh shit, you got me!