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  • MC_Kublai [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Socialism is immoral and does not work. People who think it does are ignorant.

    Pedophilia is not a crime guys. Semantics is important.

    Fun post history

  • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    We have evidence through the bones of ancient humans that "less advanced" societies provided long term care for disabled members of their group. It never ceases to amaze me that modern libertarians want to make society more savage than these "primitive" societies.

    • TyMan210 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      If I remember right, some of the earliest dated signs of "civilization" we've found are skeletal remains where a broken bone was set and allowed to properly heal. Even in the very beginning, the thing that first set us apart as more than apes with fire, was devoting resources to care for people who weren't able to produce those resources themselves, even if just for a time in that example

      • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Totally. in a very real sense, "inhumanity" as a descriptor for the kind of society that libertarians want isn't just a metaphor. They want us to be less than human.

        • TyMan210 [he/him, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          All the while, they think it's the opposite, assuming they actually buy into the whole "capitalism is human nature" line. It's the kind of thing that really makes me think about the concept of "re-education". I know it's a meme most of the time it gets brought up, but at the end of the day, something has to be done with people like that. And executing everyone to the right of an arbitrary line definitely isn't it lol

          • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            Totally! I've re-educated myself, come to think about it, and I'd I be dumb to think that the process is over. I'm sure there are still plenty of :brainworms: lurking around in my noggin, just waiting to pop out and surprise me.

            • TyMan210 [he/him, comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              For sure, I still sometimes react to something the way my old :LIB: self would have, and have to stop myself and re-evaluate things

          • jkfjfhkdfgdfb [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            And executing everyone to the right of an arbitrary line definitely isn’t it lol

            it can be :shrug-outta-hecks:

            • TyMan210 [he/him, comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              I mean I definitely have no tears to shed for dead fascists, and I have no qualms about it when it comes to people taking up arms to harm people or prevent a revolution. But in a post-revolutionary context (especially in the US), there's going to be millions of people who hold those beliefs, or ones like them, who just didn't want to or couldn't fight for them. Those are the ones I mean, those who are objectively reactionary, but who don't pose a direct or imminent threat to people or the transitional state. Idk if the answer is "re-education camps" or a cultural revolution, or what, but there's something that can be done in that situation.

    • nobodyaskshowsengels [undecided]
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      2 years ago

      I remember reading an article about how a disabled person in prehistory died from being overfed with figs. The body was buried with care, the archaeologists painted a picture that this disabled person was cared for, but they did nothing but feed them figs, like all their teeth were rotted out and they were relatively young. The person couldn’t walk, they weren’t a child, this prehistoric community went out of its way to feed a disabled person figs until they died. I guess figs made them happy idk? I just always found it funny,

      • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        That's a hell of a way to go! I'm so curious about why they did that. I love reading about archaeology, but I feel like I always just end up with more questions that will never get answered. Or we may think we know the answer, but we're totally off base, Motel of the Mysteries style.

    • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      yeah but how do you know those disabled group members didn't PAY FOR that care through some sort of insurance coverage plan like a RESPONSIBLE ADULT

  • shath [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    stupid baby can't even operate a cash register why should i take care of it

  • bigtimecringe [any]
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    2 years ago

    i hope he collapses in the street and the passersby decide that he isnt worth the energy of CPR. he isnt entitled to my labor!

    • Commander_Data [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      I hope he raises his daughter with the same "values" and she dumps his ass in a state run nursing home because he isn't entitled to any of her productivity.

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        state run nursing home b

        Idk that sounds like a service provided by the productive to the unproductive who cant afford it.

        She should honor his wishes by simply dumping his geriatric ass in a ditch or push him out to sea.

  • Azarova [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Taxation (mass theft) is not the cost of a civilized society. It's the cost you pay for not living in a civilized society.

    :data-laughing:

  • GenXen [any, any]
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    2 years ago

    Lambos are the ultimate cross section of 'what a poor person thinks that a rich person wants' and 'what a person who knows shit about cars thinks that a car enthusiast wants'.

    • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I legit want a car that if it was ever hit or needed repairs would cost me a separate car loan /s

    • huf [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      wasnt it invented by a tractor manufacturer cos he got pissed at ferrari oslt?

  • LaBellaLotta [any]
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    2 years ago

    Not usually a fan of these long screenshots from stormfront but this dude really put his whole ass out there huh. So sad how many people have “logic”d and “reasoned” themselves into just being myopically selfish. What a sad way to live.

  • betelgeuse [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    "I will do it, but I don't have to, so therefore the universe where I don't matters just a much as the universe where I will"

    What's the effective difference between being morally obligated to do it while doing it and just doing it because you feel like it's wrong and it's your daughter and you feel you should take care of her despite your moral duty? It's the same thing you pedant.

    What they really mean is that they want to win an internet argument so we all have to pretend that it's an important distinction. Sorry loser, you're wrong. Deal with it.

    "Um actually that's an ad hominem and ...'

    Ad hominem is an informal fallacy. Which means it doesn't matter. You can be logical and insult someone. You fucking dork. QED. Dwelling on informal fallacies means dick all. The structure of my argument is sound even if you don't like the content.

  • Fishroot [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    my daughter aren’t entitled to my productivity

    Bruh, even the most unhinged l*bertarian understands that kids are long term investment hence why you should take care of them

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah it's actually amazing that he walks past the obvious idiot libertarian argument into an even dumber and objectively falsifiable argument.

      "My daughter isn't morally entitled to my productivity" can be tested by not providing food and basic necessities to his daughter and seeing how the authorities and courts react. Spoilers: by locking him up.

      • Fishroot [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        most libertarians are just modern sophists or psychopaths who still haven't act on their impulses

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I disagree that the courts enforcing it makes it moral obligation. In this case it's a moral obligation as parenthood implicitly carries with it responsibilities because you having created this person now have to care for them.

  • asustamepanteon [comrade/them, he/him]
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    edit-2
    2 years ago

    Treading the same piss that's been pissed for decades.

    Calling things strawmen after his shitty take is taken to its logical conclusion.

    Possible child abuse after doubling down on aforementioned logical conclusion.

    Ah, I see, a libertarian. It's probably still early in the morning, he hasn't had a chance to feed his (presumably caged) daughter and consult his poster of logical fallacies.