The right in the US - especially conservative Christians - are whipped up into a frenzy now over the thinking literally any acceptance or encouragement of trans kids is "grooming". And I think they've been able to accomplish this by taking the word "children" and completely warping it in order to create a narrative that is so incredibly divorced from reality.

So what's the reality regarding trans youth? I'm not an expert so comrades please correct me if I'm wrong but in the US it generally follows this shape:

  • Social transitioning for pre-pubescent youth (clothes, pronouns, etc). No medical interventions are done at this stage.

  • Puberty blockers at the onset of puberty (maybe right before? I'm not clear on this one).

  • Hormones can be taken after puberty blockers if the person eventually chooses. Puberty is different for everyone but I guess this would be around age 14 or 15? Specific ages I'm not sure about but we're not talking little kids here.

  • Then actual surgical interventions are pretty limited for under 18s. I think I've only really heard about top surgeries for trans men who are like 16 or 17. Of course cis teen women have long been able to get breast reduction surgeries and no one complains about that. But AFAIK that's about the extent of surgeries for under 18 folks - extremely limited, for good or ill.

So what has the right done? They've completely twisted this narrative into that doctors are performing bottom surgeries on like 5 year olds across the country. I once saw a meme that compared Boston Children's Hospital to the Island of Dr. Moreau. They are utterly convinced that every year there are thousands of little grade school age kids getting gender affirming surgeries. What they're actually doing is taking that very small number of surgeries done on older teens and putting it under the blanket of "children". The people who are leading this charge and might know better (like Matt Walsh) are purposefully pulling this little trick to try and get people enraged.

Not that hypocrisy ever mattered to the right, but I bet you these same people who talk about "children are being mutilated" will think it's super important to clarify "those aren't migrant children crossing the border! They're like 16, they're basically adults! The media calls them 'children' to gain sympathy!" Or encourage their 14 year olds to join ROTC and basically be the little Hitler Youth in order to pave the way to join the imperialist crusading US military at 18. Whatever.

And even when it's not about surgeries, the evangelicals especially talk about children being "tricked" into being trans. This is because theologically they have to believe that being trans isn't real. That being trans is not something inherent but is instead a trick of the devil.

And where are the libs to push back on all this? Of course they're silent. The left can push back as best we can but we simply don't have the numbers to try and show a significant push back (so far at least). The libs do have the numbers. They could be pointing out this little trick the transphobes are trying to pull with the word "children". They could point out the completely unscientific assumptions made by people who by and large think the universe is less than 10,000 years old and evolution is a lie. But no, they'd rather sit on their hands and pretend nothing's happening. Or that voting is the solution.

Goddamn liberals. We're on our own on this.

    • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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      For being tragender writ large, it doesn’t make sense to call it inherent for the same reason being cisgender isn’t inherent,

      Except the preponderance of evidence is that it is inherent and probabilistically related to prenatal hormone levels during certain stages of neurological development. There was a meta study* a few years back that compiled a bunch of research on things like congenital adrenal hyperplasia (massively more likely to result in a male identity than the baseline rate of trans masc identities in the general population, although still a minority of all individuals with CAH), other hormone-related congenital conditions (some caused massive increases in the incidence of trans identities, although still a minority of the individuals in the studies), XY individuals with cloacal exstrophy who were AFAB due to missing genitals who were raised female (extremely high incidence of male identities, nearly half the subjects in the study), and prenatal exposure to diethylstilbestrol (which showed nearly a 30% rate of female identities in AMAB individuals with confirmed or suspected prenatal exposure to DES) which found the existing literature is enough to conclude that there is something that's inherent and fixed in the brain.

      And if it wasn't, then a lot of the medical side of transitioning wouldn't work. HRT would cause dysphoria instead of alleviating it, GRS would result in a mismatch with the brain's map of the body instead of aligning the body with that map as it does. If there were not a fixed and inherent quality in the individual then coercion and cishet indoctrination would work instead of being the deadly torture that they are. The simple fact that transitioning works both socially and medically is extremely strong evidence for the existence of some form of innate gender identity.

      Now, obviously, I think whatever that construct in the brain is has to be very plastic and adaptable because of how it slots people into boxes that can be very wildly different across cultures and it is my personal theory that it's a wide range of constructs intermingled with other things and serves to influence how socialization is taken in, how self-image is developed based on cultural aesthetics and norms, etc along with more directly medical things like the hormones that the brain expects or how the brain builds a map of the body. I would further say that I believe these constructs can be independent of one another so individuals can end up with a variable mix that doesn't neatly fit into the larger boxes, and that perhaps some aren't even fully fixed at all so that there can be a degree of ongoing variance that moves someone's identity around.

      And the dumbest thing is that despite all this, I also believe in gender abolition from a liberationist standpoint, that as far as it is possible to do so there should be a comprehensive decoupling of gender from aesthetics and roles, with the understanding that people are still going to filter socialization in a gendered way to some extent, still form their self-image in line with their gender, still require specific hormone balances to feel ok, etc.

      * Evidence Supporting the Biologic Nature of Gender Identity; Aruna Saraswat, MD; Jamie D. Weinand, BA, BS; Joshua D. Safer, MD; Endocr Pract. 2015;21(2):199-204.

        • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          My point was to establish that gender is something that is real and innate, even beyond the strictest medical aspects of treating gender dysphoria. I believe that overall your stance is ideologically correct, but factually incomplete: gender is real in some fashion, even if we can say that people should be liberated from all the baggage that has gone along with it historically.

          Correct the body or correct the brain. Correcting the body in this case is much safer on countless levels, therefore that is virtually always the best solution.

          I'd caution against using this particular rhetorical framing because it comes with unfortunate implications. Like imagine talking like that about a broken arm, how the brain is saying "ow that hurts" and "that really shouldn't be bending that way" so you can correct the flesh or correct the brain, but it's better to set the bone because of course it is. It becomes comical, like there cannot be a question that the brain might be wrong about whether the arm should be bending that way or not so it's weird to think of it in terms of choosing what to "correct." It's the same with gender, like you can't "correct" the brain here because that's the person, that's the bit that matters.

          Even as a rhetorical device to emphasize that making the body align with the brain is possible and safe in a way that literally rewriting someone's identity cannot be, it comes across as conceding that the brain is other than correct. I'm not going down to jump down your throat about it and I am taking pains to explain this as softly and neutrally as I can, but it is something that will strike a nerve for some people.

      • frankfurt_schoolgirl [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Thank you for writing this. You really put into words how I feel a lot when I interact with well meaning allies who tell me stuff like "well gender doesn't matter to me".

        Personally, I think my transness has nothing to do with social gender, because it's a result of some inherent aspect of my brain in conflict with the sex of my body. But, even if it's just a social construct, that doesn't mean it's baseless or not real.

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      it’s not like anyone, cis or trans, is ontologically a man or woman.

      I completely, 100% have to disagree. I am very definitely ontologically a woman. It is just that Woman is neither a category of biology (that would be "female") nor a social role (that would be "feminine"), it is rather an internal, psychological category relating to our sense of self. It is the frame of reference through which we perceive the entire rest of our gender experience, the relationship to our bodies, the gendered relationships to other human beings, our gender performance, the relation between our behavior and gendered expectations ("do i like this because i'm a man or do i like it in spite of being a girl?"), the framing of our sexual orientation ("am i a straight man or a lesbian woman?") and so on.

      Reducing gender to a two-fold model that just knows biological sex and gender as a social construct does not explain my experience at all, nor does it explain the experience of a majority of other trans people. It is beyond discussion to me that it is empirically non-viable. Focussing too much on a fleeting, socially constructed, idealist concept like gender performance is indeed a red herring when exploring one's gender, just as it is a mistake to get hung up on someting that can be changed just by hitting the right hormonal switches at the right moments like biology. To make sense of our lifes, especially that it is to us undeniably self-evident that we have never been our assigned gender at birth even when we supressed it and performed in a different gender role, in a body mismatched with our self, only makes sense when you treat woman or man or enbie as a seperate, internal category, everybody's "true self" so to speak. Otherwise, if i had a male body for most of my life and performed as a boy for most of my life, which i had and which i did, how could i always have been trans? I would have started being trans when my egg cracked, but not before, because under a two-dimensional biological + social model, 100% of the dimensions of my gender experience would have been manly. But they weren't. Neither my body nor my role as a boy ever fit me. Nothing in my life ever made sense, it was all a disparate jumble of struggling to fit a mold not made for me - and once i realised "oh, i'm just trans", all of that stopped. It just turned to dust. It could not offer the slightest resistance. Everything made sense by simply fitting in that missing puzzle piece that was my gender identity. This is a quite common experience for trans people who do not fall in the "i've always known, i refused to wear pants when i was just three years old and then i told mom it's a mistake by god that i have a weenie" category - lots of trans people do see their true self as early as that, lots of others don't and instead only come out later in life, but evidence clearly shows we're all equally valid.

      Not feeling that you even have a gender identity is ofc still possible - it is a logical conclusion for agender people where gender identity may just be a blank, it may also be a privilege of cis people who never had to think about this issue too hard because their gender identity, social gender role and biological sex are all more or less completely aligned from the start, or it may be a fairly typical train of thought for eggs who through their denial and repression lack a connection with their gender identity (the latter was me for a large part of my life).

      But if you want to explain everybody's gender experience - and a viable gender theory should do exactly that - you need more than the two dimensions of biology and social role. What i've outlined here is based on Leslie Feinberg's model, i've also seen five-fold models. But regardless of what you use, two-fold is always too simplistic, it is only an intermediary step up from bio-reductionist explanations like "gender is just your chromosomes".

      • Philosoraptor [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Neither my body nor my role as a boy ever fit me. Nothing in my life ever made sense, it was all a disparate jumble of struggling to fit a mold not made for me - and once i realised “oh, i’m just trans”, all of that stopped. It just turned to dust. It could not offer the slightest resistance. Everything made sense by simply fitting in that missing puzzle piece that was my gender identity.

        I hear stuff like this a lot from trans people I know as well.

        There was an early 20th century geneticist named Dobzhansky who was pivotal in building the "modern synthesis" of post-Mendelian genetics and Darwin's work on evolution. He claimed that "nothing in biology makes sense except in light of evolution," for it was evolution that transformed biology from a "pile of sundry facts" into a coherent, integrated theory that all fit together into a sensible whole.

        I tend to think about gender as something like that as well--a unifying hub that doesn't seem like much in isolation, but which binds together so many different aspects of our psychological and social identities that it's a thing that turns those identities from a "pile of sundry facts" to something that makes sense.

        That makes it real if anything is, it seems to me.