• FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    7 months ago

    Who would have thought that a game series where Americans of Chinese descent were rounded up and put into camps to be experimented upon might have something to say about racism?

    • HiImThomasPynchon [des/pair, it/its]
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      7 months ago

      I remember making that discovery in Old World Blues and it was such a jarring tonal shift. It's like "Wacky 50's sci-fi movie concepts! Enjoy the campy robots and the funny scientists and this reference to an atrocity the US Government committed on its own soil and is still in living memory!"

      • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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        7 months ago

        Little Yangtze is such a kick in the teeth too

        They weren't spies or soldiers

        Just people

        And you can't help them

      • ashinadash [she/her]
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        7 months ago

        Grim as fuck, New Vegas has tonal problems here and there ngl.

    • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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      7 months ago

      Okay but the show isn't that, and the show doesn't say anything about racism. Segregation, the race based narrative of the cold war rhetoric, and casual racism of the American setting is fully excised.

  • regul [any]
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    7 months ago

    I'm more upset that there are still racially distinct people in Vault 33. It's been 250+ years with a limited breeding pool (so much so they're talking about "cousin stuff") but not everyone is a shade of brown with dark hair?! Sounds like a vault full of racists!

    • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      yeah that was my very first thought, like oh wow there are still distinct races in this vault? what the fuck is wrong with these people?

      • yoink [she/her]
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        7 months ago

        I mean, a key feature of it all is that

        late season spoiler

        new blood from pre-war keeps being regularly introduced from 31

        so I figure that's how that's happening

        • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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          7 months ago
          spoiler

          Sure, but are they just killing off all the mixed race offspring? Because you'd think there'd be a majority of them, even if you're dropping in more racially distinct people periodically, right?

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    7 months ago

    Like it's amazing because capital G G*mers have pretty much obliterated whatever mask was left, they're flat out full blown reactionaries now.

    • invo_rt [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Yeah there isn't even a facade anymore. They've anti-woked themselves right back into yelling about miscegenation.

    • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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      7 months ago

      I feel ambivalent about removing segregation when you're making a depiction of 1950s Americana. Because on one hand, just as you can't truly make an anti war film, making a show where segregation is truly explored is not something a lot of people (Especially white people) have the skill and background to realize, on the other it is a dishonest view of history that glosses over the historical crimes committed against minorities.

      • Redderthanmisty@lemmygrad.ml
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        7 months ago

        The prologue of the show is supposed to be set in the late 21st century, so they can get away with getting rid of segregation in the pre-war period without delving into the issue all that much. Supposedly, the reason why pre-war America is still locked in the 50's aesthetic despite being set in the future is because they hadn't made significant advancements in developing the microchip in that timeline, and so instead of advancing to the digital era, most tech remained based on big and bulky analogue computing.

  • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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    7 months ago

    Ah fuck off, I just posted that it was nice that there wasn't discourse about the interracial couples in that show