Do I have to act like a gigachud so they rebel against me? Where did Harris/Buttplug's parents go wrong?

  • Dolores [love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    leftist intellectual parents think that being didactic somehow impurely influences how their child will eventually turn out.

    leaving your child to 'discover themselves' (applying to labor aristocracy academic marxists and such) when the material conditions are that of the labor aristocracy/petit bourgeoisie...

    the kids are acculturated to their class. academic marxists are petit-boug or labor aristocrats.

    you want a kid to be a marxist you have to teach them to be if it doesn't align with their material interests.

    the examples are people who had material comfort and their kids understandably acculturated to their material conditions in the lack of parental redirection. you ever hear kamala harris or buttigieg talk about how they rebelled against their parents' 'woke' ideals? their parents didnt bother because they assumed their beliefs were moral & natural, and wouldve been adopted by their kids as a matter of course

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The Virgin permissive Western upbringing vs the Chad prescriptive Asian upbringing.

      • Dolores [love/loves]
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        2 years ago

        western marxists and lacking material analysis; name a better combo lmao

    • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Which is morbidly hilarious given Joseph Buttigieg's role in giving the rest of us Gramsci's work on Cultural Hegemony. My brother in christ, you let your kid become an Alex P. Keaton clone.

    • MoneyIsTheDeepState [comrade/them,he/him]
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      2 years ago

      For real. My education was didactic as hell, and that wasn't my problem with it

      My problem was that the things I was being taught turned out to be bullshit

    • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Big cities in the US (assuming that's where you live) have a lot of leftists in them. But your mileage varies. I've met some that were very radical but took their political identity to such an extreme that they became unbearable to be around. I really don't need to hear anti-capitalist screeds when I'm trying to eat a sandwich.

      Your points are pretty much spot on and it's what my parents did with me. They continue to live as farmers long after the civil war has ended, spend a lot of time with us and have a great sense of humor that draws people to them. Sometimes their old war friends would come over and it gets treated more as a friendly get-together than the organization they're actually doing.

      I think leftists in developed countries sometimes take the politics too close to heart and it seeps into everything else. I don't know exactly why it is, but some leftist Facebook feeds don't look that much different from an angry grandpa to the average person when all you're doing is complaining about the state of the world.

      • star_wraith [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        In theory there's nothing wrong. In practice it usually ends up creating bigger problems in the org, drama, etc that takes away from the goals of the party.

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Don't be a comfy middle class yank intellectual.

  • JamesConeZone [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Good posts here, I'll add that it's important kids are around working class folks as it becomes much harder to do lib shit when you know people, it's why chud evangelicals who know a gay person are much more likely to be supportive of gay rights. Make sure they attend public schools and do at least a sport to interact with as many diverse groups as possible. This why finding a church/organisation that is pro-LGBTQ is so important to me, it helps build that foundation that being gay and/or trans is not abnormal. Same idea with the working class--seeing their struggles first hand is formative

    Edit: public schools, after school activities, religious groups,etc are all ways to make friends and contacts with the working class. Post-college, that becomes almost impossible unless you are super intentional about it

  • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    :I-was-saying: Every time this question is asked I give the same answer and here it is, Michael Parenti did alright raising his son to be a progressive at worst so that's something

    Maybe ask Christian Parenti what his dad did to keep him from becoming like mayo Pete or Kopmala

    :party-parenti:

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    1 year ago

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  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Pete Buttplug or Kamala Harris

    No mocking name for Kamala Harris? Is she enough of a self-produced mockery? :top-cop:

  • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I tried (and failed, long story) to help my turbo-religious grandparents liquidate their holdings as landlords. If you've got a wallet that fat, you aren't passing through the eye of any needles any time soon—and you're going to need to do that sooner rather than later.

    I organize a community garden and tend to an apiary. My kids all participate, even though we rarely get to eat anything out of it.

    When I see folks stealing at the grocery store, I don't ignore it—I actively run interference so the LP class traitors don't notice. This is white privilege wielded responsibly: they aren't gonna arrest me, a well-dressed white family man. My intentionally obvious under-scanning was simply a mistake, my chums!

    You live your values. Simple as.

  • shiteyes2 [any]
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    2 years ago

    Your kid's genetics are basically random. They can turn out like any relative or ancestor you've ever had with personalities to match. You do the best you can and if they're just obdurate buttplugs you pray for karma or minecraft enemies because if they're family you can't dynamite their steve hut. You can only embarrass the shit out of them by neutrally recalling all of the shitty things they did and what happened because of it. Which may or may not do anything.

    Nature keeps pumping out narcissist maniacs because it's a viable strategy at least some of the time and society can keep them under control or not depending on how well it functions. They'll always exploit weakness and come to power in low times which have to happen sooner or later.

    A proper FALGSC AI would find somewhere harmless to send them while fluffing their egos. Which is kind of what was happening except in this case massive corruption has allowed the Kopmalas, Mayo Petes, and DeSanctimoniouses to climb way too high.

      • shiteyes2 [any]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah I'm sure you don't think a lot of things, I said my part ta-ta

    • Des [she/her, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      getting assigned a humanoid sentient drone :data-outdoor-cat: like from The Culture just to flatter them and laugh at their jokes as they are taken to the giant holopark for "budding leaders".