• Budwig_v_1337hoven [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    They also really like embracing the capitalist growth paradigm or rather are very explicitly anti any sort of post-growth/degrowth thought - which is a peculiar red line running through a bunch of rather incoherent ideology

    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Yeah its a very popular reactionary tendency right now as climate crisis approaches and its becoming clear that degrowth would be necessary to avoid barbarism, they just try and avoid the barbarism part by instead putting on the blinders and scolding anyone who advocates for degrowth for "hating the working class" or wanting to make peoples lives worse and shit like that.

      They hate us for our prosperity or something.

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      If I recall it's a whole thing in Larouchian thought, where his idea of a successful American Revolution is one where America is reindustrialized, which is a fine idea as a concept since there would be a degree of local reindustrialization necessary for international "degrowth" (think about how the process of Del Monte makes their peach cups by harvesting them in Greece then barging them literally across the world to be processed in Thailand to be barged yet again across the world to be sold here in the USA. Degrowth would mean cutting out the whole fucking process and letting local peach farmers send their peaches to local factories to distribute internally with some international trade to places that can't grow their own peaches etc.)

      The kicker is that dipshit Larouch went from a trotskyite position which meant state control over the means of production to a right-opportunist position (new deal shitlib) meaning state oversight of capitalists that retain control over the means of production.

      Any fucking Larouchian clown that stans that ultra-Left to right-wing Huey Long 2.0 circus show is an ideologically incoherent whacky waving inflatable arm flailing tubeman that flitters back and forth between revolutionary and reactionary ideas with zero substance inside them but hot air.

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Funny enough the whole "new deal shitlib" shit Larouchites stan is basically the "new deal socialism" and "bill of rights socialism" CPUSA stans as well.

        • TheGamingLuddite [none/use name]
          cake
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          2 years ago

          The fucking Lincoln bust they put up at a conference to mirror the old CPUSA is based on the post-psyop CPUSA that tried and failed to appeal to American patriotism

          • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            Well if we're gonna be accurate, the failure od CPUSA to appeal to American patriotism occured due to the onset of the cold war and the second Red Scare. A lot of the membership of CPUSA that had joined over the course of the war were from the intelligentsia and the petite bougeoise, whom at the whiff of the threat of legal persecution by the Feds would flee the party and disavow their association all-together. These folks were generally the folks that were attracted by the browderite era agitprop as it was historically up to that point that communists were the greatest fighters and allies against the fascist menace.

            Logically, you would look at the contemporary rise of fascism and say the old browderite agitprop might be a strategy to utilize again today, but the problem is that only works if your country is fighting against fascism and not the one actively feeding it. The strategy for that is revolutionary defeatism and/or partisan work a la peoples war etc.

            Tl:Dr larouchshite clowns are choosing a poor strategy that has historically failed in the face of federal soft-power repression.