I know this is petty and inane r*ddit bullshit but this Broke me a little bit
I'm genuinely asking btw
Enjoy it while it lasts, the presidential campaign is gonna get in full swing by the end of next year and he'll be in our faces every day again.
I'm pretty sure the Democrats won't push Trump in the 2024 pied piper strategy and we won't see him until Jan. 6 II.
I've come to the conclusion (based on talking with my family) that it's because they trust the institutions that govern society. If they were to accept that the institutions will never convict this pathetic piece of shit of a man for the many obvious crimes that he has done (or any other number of lib things) then they effectively have to accept that everything they have believed in their entire lives is a lie.
That's a tough pill to swallow, so they remain in denial indefinitely.
It's just like Abbie Hoffman said:
I think we have some fine institutions, currently staffed by some not-so-fine people
God that made me so angry. The real Abbie gave a speech about how young people were going to usher in a post-money economy on the stand
Listen to the cast production of the court transcripts, it's hilarious and inspiring (and engaging)
This, but also I would add:
If you do have an awakening and come to the conclusion that the institutions that govern society are either: systemically broken and corrupt OR Fundamentally at odds with the creation of a just society:
....then on some level you have to realize that the responsibility is on you to get off your ass and fucking do something about it. Its much easier to either just be like them and keep believing the system will eventually work it all out and you just need to be patient and civil, or to be like most of us here and just shit post about it.
They're like this for the same reason a lot of people are violently in denial. If they pluck that thread and concede how wrong they are, it means they're wrong on a lot more than that.
That they endorsed war criminals
That they were complicit in state violence
That they ignored god knows how many people who were right
That they have to do a lot of work to be the good person they think they are
And so it's easier to just blame and attack others and think that the system will right itself.
They are like this because the alternative is that they are not good people. They are like this because the alternative is that they will actually have to get up off the couch, turn off the TV, and go into society. They are like this because it justifies the imagined meritocracy that they all live under.
There are many reasons they are like this.
But they are in society. They turned the tv off to knit pink pussy hats, they got up off the couch to march in solidarity in the streets. To them we are just irony poisoned, terminally online posters. They keep falling for it, and they're legion.
To them we are just irony poisoned, terminally online posters
In fairness, many of us (or at least those who bother getting into online arguments with libs), kinda are irony poisoned, terminally online posters lol
I remember my severe disdain for trump back in 2015-16, and then going online and seeing "orange man bad" memes. I was pretty much like "yeah orange man is bad ofc, this isn't a comeback"
Like obviouslyyears later if feel kinda the same way, but it took me a while to see exactly how broken a lot of people's brains were. I'm lucky that I could patch my brain up by understanding anarchist/socialist/communist thinking which helps set a lot of the pieces straight. If you don't have access or awareness of that I'm not surprised it was filled with MSNBC brainworms cause at least it's something.
I've had this conversation with my lib family members probably a dozen or more times over the past two years. It's a dogma at this point, like believing in Christianity or Anticommunism, all you can do is say your piece and move on.
Just Reddit things
It's the internet, they could be anyone. A dumb kid, a fed, a chud trying to piss you off. Don't let it get to you.
Gotta learn to step away. I've been baited too, and it bothered me all day, and it was an unproductive use of my mental capacity to care. At least my comments were controversial instead of just heavily downvoted, either comrades passed by that thread, or hopefully I got through to a lurker reading it who went "I should google events he's referencing" :bug-facts:
It's wild how deep the propaganda goes. Libs who believe we live in a just world and that Trump/Russia is the only abhorration of this are unreachable. It's impossible for Americans to be racist, it's clearly Russia's fault.
Probably doesn't help to use explicitly communist language. The far right are using correct tactics when they dog whistle and JAQ off with leading questions.
This takes me back to when people were convinced that Obama would take action against Bush
You are totally neglecting the possibility that Obama had Bush arrested and sent to gitmo and replaced him with a clone.
Remind them that the Democrats controlled both houses after the 1986 midterms and they chose - including the current president when he was a senator - not to impeach Raygun for Iran Contra. They also chose to restrict the investigation to merely "what did the president know and when did he know it" (which they already knew the answer to) and not look at all the crimes committed, the drug smuggling allegations that emerged, the october surprise allegation that emerged.
