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  • Spectre_of_Z_poster [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Yeah and his administration also obliterated Syria, Honduras and Libya and threw the Maidan coup setting up the Ukraine crisis. Trump didn’t start any wars. Trump set up a withdrawal from Afghanistan and made advances in diplomacy with DPRK, while Obama was a more aggressive and effective purveyor of empire

      • LiberalSocialist [any,they/them]
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        2 years ago

        No, you don’t understand, the fascists are totally anti-war. In fact, the fascists are gonna help us achieve socialism!!!

    • LiberalSocialist [any,they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Lmao.

      Obama was a more aggressive and effective purveyor of empire

      He literally drone-striked Soleimani. The coups of Bolivia and Brazil happened under him. The Venezuelan crippling sanctions happened under him. Chinese trade war happened under him. I could go on and on.

      Trump was as much a fucking tool of the State as Obama. On top of that, he opposed abortions, trans rights etc.

      Seriously. Get a grip.

      • Spectre_of_Z_poster [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        The coups in Bolivia and Brazil have failed, leftists are back in power. Hence supporting my argument that Trump was a shittier imperialist. The soleimani assassination was so blatant and perfidious that the US lost major international support, it was crude and ineffectual and only aligned more forces against the empire. Obama would have done it low and slow and effectively, you would never have even heard of Soleimani.

        Obama started the pivot to China, he started the sinophobic ramp up that Trump exploited.

        Liberal Socialist you never stop getting owned by communists yet still feeling so confident in your wrong and liberal outlooks. None of this is to say Trump was good, but he was actually an incompetent buffoon who divided the core and fucked up everything he touched, which is actually the superior option to a competent fascist manager of empire like Obama

        Oh no the settler-colonists inside the imperial core had to deal with a 3% more reactionary reactionary :( :(

        • LiberalSocialist [any,they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Are you calling the women, bipoc and lgtbq people who suffered under trump fucking settler-colonists and minimising their suffering? Seriously?

          Well, your name is “spectre of z” so I should expect such fascist, reactionary takes.

      • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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        2 years ago

        I was about to write a whole comment arguing with you but then I recognized your username and remembered the last time I saw you arguing dumb shit