• kfc [any]
    hexbear
    113
    15 days ago

    Imagine the media's reaction if this picture was from China. They'd roll with that shit for all of eternity, sear that shit into our mind, and lock us up in a box of fury

    • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
      hexbear
      63
      15 days ago

      Israel is literally zip locking civilians together and running them over with tanks. The west has no leg to stand on with tinyman shit anymore, especially when you point out that the tank man wasn’t even run over or arrested but escorted off by his friends

        • Lerios [hy/hym]
          hexbear
          34
          15 days ago

          https://streamable.com/unjnw9

          i always keep this on hand. my lib friends hate it xi-lib-tears

      • iie [they/them, he/him]
        hexbear
        28
        15 days ago

        Israel is literally zip locking civilians together and running them over with tanks

        Source (CW, aftermath is pictured): https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/israeli-tanks-have-deliberately-run-over-dozens-palestinian-civilians-alive-enar

      • Xx_Aru_xX [she/her]
        hexbear
        17
        15 days ago

        and it's not the worst thing they've done out of the things we know

      • Des [she/her, they/them]
        hexbear
        17
        15 days ago

        i remember some reddit weirdo trying to analyze the footage pixel by pixel to prove it was some CPC secret police hold they put on the guy

        wanted to prove they took him away and shot him immediately.

        • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
          hexbear
          9
          edit-2
          15 days ago

          https://youtu.be/vSbx352cn8A

          https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/israeli-tanks-have-deliberately-run-over-dozens-palestinian-civilians-alive-enar

          https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-gaza-israel-palestinian-ran-over-tank-images-suggest

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
      hexbear
      18
      15 days ago

      It would be the new tank man picture, the "perfect" gotcha for libs and chuds alike (very alike)

  • @Hotspur@lemmy.ml
    hexbear
    81
    15 days ago

    This shit is so wild. Large hyper-real push to define objecting to ongoing and unimpeachable military atrocities as hate crimes and anti-semitism. This then means that people objecting are either “Hamas terrorists” or “leftist fascists”. Therefore, use of snipers and para-military force must be employed. Like, all of this potential violence and oppression from a grotesque, albeit impressive, PR / propaganda campaign.

    What I can’t wrap my head around, is that the claims are so insanely obviously fake/wrong. It really feels like some sort of shared delusion where the powers that be have agreed to just all agree that this absurd claim is reality, even though it looks the opposite to literally everyone else.

    Whoever quarterbacked the destruction of Harvard and Penn’s presidents early on really did a whammy—the reactions at all of these universities seems so insanely disproportionate to what’s going on, it really reads as if they’re being blackmailed or otherwise compelled.

    I really don’t see how you justify having snipers trained on your own students who are literally sitting on grass and singing/chanting.

    Also, I assume it’s like a trespassing thing, but what is the legal basis for violently arresting students hanging out on quads? Is it just the university has “closed” these spaces, so the normal right to free movement of students is now revoked, and so being in these spaces counts as some sort of trespass?

    I guess it doesn’t really matter, they can always fabricate whatever basis they need to bring in the thugs, but it just adds to the strange hyper-real feeling. Most of the protests haven’t had anything remotely approaching any definition of violence. The anti-war stuff in the 60s involved firebombing and lots of “property destruction” etc.

    Anyhow, power to these kids, and glad they’re not balking in the face of all these threats and intimidation.

    Side note: I realize that minorities and other marginalized groups have experienced the business end of American security state for years/decades/centuries, but is this perhaps a good example of the security state expanding its oppression and crackdown onto more privileged “mainstream” groups? I realize a lot of the protestors are minorities themselves, but I mean in the sense that these are college students at elite universities, some of them presumably from backgrounds of means/opportunity. Some dem senator did a voice clip on the news about how these college students are “leftist fascists” which is obviously garbage, but like everything else now, everything is just fascist this fascist that, with zero relation to the more academic understanding of the term.

    If they somehow successfully get this hyper-real fiction to stick, there’s no limits to what they can get up to next—anything that challenges the dominant paradigm will just be labeled, targeted and removed. Not a unique occurrence, but certainly a signal that you’re well into authoritarian land.

    I know this is an old, time-tested tactic against leftists and oppositions everywhere, it’s just one of the first times in my life I’ve noticed it really being used and pushed by mainstream media across the political spectrum. Similar shit was going down with BLM post George Floyd, but that was still mostly relegated to very partisan outlets, this feels much more broad-spectrum.

    • Assian_Candor [comrade/them]
      hexbear
      52
      edit-2
      15 days ago

      It's a big misstep I think, many of these kids are well meaning libs who have been told their whole lives that the best way to enact change is peaceful protest. If you try that and end up getting a baton to the face, well that's as radicalizing of a moment as there possibly could be.

      I do hope they move on to burning shit next

  • edge [he/him]
    hexbear
    72
    15 days ago

    The protestors need to start open carrying.

    • Pentacat [he/him]
      hexbear
      48
      15 days ago

      They do appear to be trying to exercise their rights under a long dead amendment. Perhaps another amendment might be worth a try?

      • edge [he/him]
        hexbear
        28
        15 days ago

        It's less "exercising their rights" and more defending themselves. There's literally a sniper pointed at them, the cops are ready to kill.

        Of course it could also backfire...

        • radiofreeval [she/her]
          hexbear
          11
          15 days ago

          Cops get a lot less willing to brutalize people if they know that will be the last move they ever make.

  • @FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml
    hexbear
    71
    15 days ago

    No worries guys, as its the land of freedom, this guy is just protecting freedom, and the bullets he shoots are freedom bullets. If it hits you it makes you free (from material existence)

  • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
    hexbear
    69
    edit-2
    15 days ago

    Show

    a somewhat better picture.

    and a zoomed out picture of the building from google for reference.

    Show

  • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]
    hexbear
    65
    edit-2
    15 days ago

    that shit is also how they coordinate kettling points. Every time you see the roof spotters / snipers you can be completely sure there are swat teams hiding out in buildings basically everywhere around you.

  • Red_sun_in_the_sky@lemmy.ml
    hexbear
    65
    edit-2
    15 days ago

    Something something Tiananmen something uhhhhhhhh authoritarian tankie. Uhhhh uhhhh. Students are hamas. Trump will take all rights. Vote blue. Uhhhhhhh free hong kong free syria free taiwan free tibet. China russia iran no rights. Uhhhhh

  • bazingabrain [comrade/them]
    hexbear
    39
    15 days ago

    Can someone tag the moron who was yapping about sources and that these guys were akchually spotters and not real snipers please.