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  • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Got real mixed feelings on this because while this guy is a douche and his childish revenge antics are dumb, I just imagine myself having to deal with a shattered car window and having a hard time feeling bad for the person who did it to me

    • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah, Ive got a neighbor who has had a broken quarter window on their car for months now. Its not a nice car, probably expensive to fix. Some asshole probably popped the window for some loose change and now my neighbor has a car him and his family can't be warm or dry in.

      Like who cares about people stealing from walgreens and shit, but these guys were organized.

      There's space between "fuck the cops" and "I love when people create setbacks in others lives for some petty cash".

      Those guys who were robbing suitcases from cars, throwing out passports, personal items, etc to make what? 100 bucks? Like there's a point where these are just shit behaviors by people who just don't care about others.

      The mom yoinking what she thought was a toy for her kid? sure not a huge deal. Those guys? fuck them.

        • SadStruggle92 [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          I am of mixed mind on this. I think the correct answer here is that you have to not fuck with other poor people, or workers if you want your "Crimes of Survival" to not have an ultimately reactionary character.

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      If I had to choose between having my expensive shit stolen and getting glitter bombed, I'd take the glitter bomb. Like if this was some guy bragging about killing thieves, that'd be incredibly fucked up, but what he did to them wasn't as bad as what they tried to do to him.

      • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I was specifically talking about the professional career thieves using job-specific tools who are breaking into locked cars

      • RoabeArt [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        anyone who leaves an undisguised very expensive electronic item on their front porch unattended deserves to have it stolen

        This happens more often than you think. Sellers will just slap a shipping label directly on the item and send it out if it's too big to fit in a plain cardboard box. That combined with delivery services dropping packages off when most people might not be home, well, that's a lot of time for the box to be sit unattended.

        I once took time out of my day to go home and bring in a PC monitor that was delivered at 10 in the morning (my shift didn't end until 4pm). The monitor was shipped in its own box and was very obviously a monitor to anyone walking or driving by my house. I'm lucky enough that my boss let me go home and get it; not everyone has that luxury.

    • 4zi [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      because thievery doesnt exist in the parts of the world with the harshest laws, right? right???

      • BeamBrain [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Remembering something I read about how, when pickpocketing carried the death sentence in England, people would go to the public executions of pickpockets in order to pick pockets

  • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    as a former burglar, all this would do is goad me into more property damage
    "well, i ransacked your house, might as well set it on fire now you [redacted]"

  • motherofmonsters [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Jfc what all activism and no theory does to a mf. Stop stanning criminals. These aren’t poor people stealing bread to survive.

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Stop stanning criminals.

      the wealthy call their violence law and the violence of the workers they call crime :stirner-cool:

      (I didn't watch the video and have no context, I just felt compelled to say this)

        • The_Dawn [fae/faer, des/pair]
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          2 years ago

          Yes the guy in the Lexus really has it rough. He’s struggling to survive.

          Literally reactionary propaganda regurgitated from a reactionary youtube video. Theres very few career burglars/thieves that can afford a lexus/are "well off." And many career criminals are more or less barred from "legitimate work" usually due to having a record.

          No reason to praise them, no real reason support their further subjugation either

          • motherofmonsters [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            the paper I could find on it indicate that package thieves are disproportionately middle class, thus are just opportunist pigs making other people’s lives harder for marginal gain

            • The_Dawn [fae/faer, des/pair]
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              2 years ago

              would be awful if you linked the paper so i could rip it apart. "criminology" "studies" are 100% whack. also

              middle class,

              doesnt have a marxist definition so i have no way of knowing what you or the study mean by this rn

              • motherofmonsters [she/her]
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                2 years ago

                oh yeah. I fucking hate cops and criminology is a close second. But everything I’ve seen and read lines up with it being a crime of opportunity for scum people.

                doesnt have a marxist definition

                Sure but there are other frameworks through which to engage with the world. It doesn’t make them inherently correct or more right but just as a way to discuss things

        • Cloudx189 [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          I was speaking in generalities. If you want to talk about petty theft in contrast to labor or wage theft, and who is looked down on, well there's no better place. The video is disingenuous as it plants items of luxury and provokes theft for the content. This isn't also to say theft is fine, I've had my car broken into in my personal life with sentimental values stolen. But at the end of the day, I'm not truly hurt by it.

  • FoolishFool [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Hmm, this is a significant escalation over his past stuff involving people stealing packages from porches.

    I was gonna say at least for that stuff I think it's harmless enough, since it's not like he was doing "HOMELESS MAN gets GLITTERBOMBED while STEALING BREAD". He was doing it to people stealing (most likely what they thought were) non-essentials, and wasn't calling the cops on em' or anything, so I felt just some glitter/bad smell/etc. was a fair trade.

    Bait cars are a bit worse than that tho.

      • FoolishFool [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Okay, trying that first time is a little much, but if he gave up after that and settled on just pranking them, I still don't completely condemn the porch stuff at least.

              • FoolishFool [she/her]
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                2 years ago

                If that was the actual story/motive behind that instance, the parents are not very smart then. A random package on someone's porch, that they didn't even bother to vet first apparently, could have anything from a sex toy to medication in it.

  • Shoegazer [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    His other video is worse.

    There’s one where he tried to prank some online scammer by sending a smelly package that played loud sounds then calling the cops on the scammer

    Except the scammer was staying at an Airbnb location and moved out the day before. And the landlord picked up the package instead

    The landlord was also a black man. And he was concerned about the package and called the police before the bazinga uploader could

    Landlord aside, it was a very real possibility that the cops killed him regardless if the bazinga called them or the landlord did

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      bazingas, landlords, pigs, and smelly packages? What is this, an aristocrats joke?

    • Parent [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      I think I watched them before out of boredom. Looking back it's crazy the dude does this over a $6 package when he could easily just get Amazon to send another for free.

    • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      They're lumpenproles, there's a rich marxist tradition already about if they have revolutionary potential as a class or not.

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah ngl I'm having a hard time bridging the gap between "workers should oppose capitalists because capitalists steal the fruits of their labor" and "it's bad and wrong to discourage burglars from stealing the fruits of your labor"

  • mittens [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    it's pretty damning that all the "victims" don't even have 400 dollars to spare, the kid who got this package from their neighbors throwing it out (wasn't even stolen) is like "you can make money or you can give it back" like he knows the first one is a bit of a remote possibility, and the NASA cop is like "these people are fucking scum, watch them say scummy shit", it doesn't make me angry but like this mark robber guy obviously thinks poverty is, like, their fault.

  • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Can I say I hate that guy on purely aesthetic grounds. Something about the way his character dresses and the mannerisms (and I assume it's a character) is extremely "how do you do fellow kids".

    Can't comment on the content of the video, saw who it was and closed it instantly lol.

    • Goadstool
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      2 months ago

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  • UlyssesT
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    2 months ago

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