• invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Probably January 6th for pop history, but the substation attacks in Moore County for more real/in depth history.

      • gick_lover [they/them,she/her]
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        2 years ago

        i feel like the fucker Rittenhouse murdering those protesters was the actual start, but tbh may be Reinoehl merking that fash was the real start cause fash been attacking leftists for awhile yet that was when the other side started to fight back. Leftists def are not really doing too much intense shit these days but I feel that moment was significant.

        Still the Rittenhouse shooting def was a point of no-return that I feel shit has not de-escalated from imo.

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Nah, the war will start when the states grasp on power fades. Destruction of infrastructure is a clear sign that the state can no longer protect itself.

          The Floyd protests are one of the first clashes of the factions and the burning of the police precinct will be one of the first moments that the state started losing control, but if these substation attacks continue, then state power is going to very rapidly decline.

          • gick_lover [they/them,she/her]
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            2 years ago

            I consider that more of an escalation of a low intensity conflict into a higher intensity one, but it is legit if people just refer to the higher intensity shit as the war.

            I think its a question of whether you consider shit like the Troubles or the Years of Lead as a civil war. I def think we are in that kind of conflict right now, but its def not like Syrian civil war intensity at this point.

            • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Yeah, is not really gonna pop off until there's troops occupying the streets for an extended period of time. This chain of events with substation destruction has the possibility of triggering that response. The protests came close, so 2020 could also be a contender for the seed event

              Hopefully there will be an American battleship Potemkin

              • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                Hopefully there will be an American battleship Potemkin

                Personally, I'm holding out for a War of 1812 moment, where the US narrowly avoided being conquered by Bob Ross.

            • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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              2 years ago

              I feel like it’s one of those things where if things do one day get to Syrian civil war intensity, our near-Troubles level might be included, but if it calms down it won’t be called a civil war.

        • yellowfattybean [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I'd have to do a double take but I think Rittenhouse was a day or two before Reinoehl because I remember people staging in Clackamas dressed in Kyle costumes (purple glove, green shirt). What a weird and awful reality we live in

          • gick_lover [they/them,she/her]
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            2 years ago

            Yeah it was. Chuds were def emboldened by Rittenhouse, but it felt that shit de-escalated a little bit after Reinoehl went Dorner on that fash.