https://nitter.net/GretaThunberg/status/1608056944501178368?t=1N6P4ou9J32Eb2j1MplKAQ&s=19

    • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I'm somewhat more forgiving of that sort of language if it's weaponized against demons in skin suits—especially from an autistic teenager—but you're right. We stan all short kings here, no matter where or how short they are.

      • DialecticalWeed [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I personally am not more forgiving for this language because it perpetuates senses of shame many men feel, the vast majority of whom are not Andrew Tate level misogynists.

      • DialecticalWeed [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        With the collateral damage being perpetuating language that is harmful to many men who are not the enemy

          • DialecticalWeed [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Not really, because I am one of those people. How am I supposed to feel when the entire internet is clowning on a guy for "small dick energy"? He's a total and complete asshole no doubt, but I'm nothing like him and I'm left feeling worse about myself than he probably does.

            • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              I apologize for being so flippant. I'm fat as hell. I know all about body shame. And I had to learn to harden myself against generalized shaming of fat people for being fat in general, because it's pretty fucking all-pervasive. Don't feel bad about your body issues. Shit's genetic; not like you can do exercises about it or anything. But since the sentiment is out there, it's not like people will stop making the jokes anytime soon. But anyone who would actually personally shame you for your body is a piece of shit, full stop.

              For what it's worth, "SDE" is primarily a descriptor of attitude. It's about openly displaying transparent insecurity about your worthiness as a man by trying to cover for it with shallow indicators of social status, like money or cars or memberships or some other source of prestige that has nothing to do with a person and everything to do with what is in that person's possession. There's probably less cruel ways to state it though.

              Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

              • DialecticalWeed [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Don’t feel bad about your body issues

                You and I both know that can't happen as long as body shaming men is totally socially acceptable. Like you said you deal with this just in a different way, so I know I don't have to explain that to you.

                But since the sentiment is out there, it’s not like people will stop making the jokes anytime soon.

                I know, but still hearing it all the time does affect me. Im sure it affects other men too, but you can't even say anything about it because then you out yourself. I'm taking one for the team though here.

                For what it’s worth, “SDE” is primarily a descriptor of attitude.

                I don't think you meant it this way, but I feel gaslit every time someone says this. Even if its about "attitude" the central concept of the joke is small dick = bad and shameful, big dick = good and worthy of pride.

                Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

                You didn't, I just had to say something after seeing the OP interaction everywhere yesterday, and I felt that people on this site would be more cognizant than others.

                • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  I know what you mean and at the same time I laughed out loud when I saw Greta's post, and enjoyed the fact that it probably did hurt Tate's feelings considering it took him 10 fucking hours to come back with a video that was by all accounts basically just "no u"

                  It's a guilty laugh for sure, but seriously, fuck Andrew Tate. Discouraging that kind of obnoxious self-absorbed peacocking bullshit is an acceptable positive effect of that joke.