https://nitter.net/GretaThunberg/status/1608056944501178368?t=1N6P4ou9J32Eb2j1MplKAQ&s=19
The idea of it is interesting and fun, but the experience blows. It's always cramped, awkward and filthy.
What the fuck is wrong with these assholes?
This is cartoon villain shit
nothing but love for our aggressive autistic comrades https://bigthink.com/the-present/zizek-toxic-masculinity/
“So, I think that the secret trick of this category of toxic masculinity is to promote a very precise — I’m almost tempted to say — masculine cliché of women: Women like dialogue, they are friendly, non-violent, and so on, and so on,” he said. “What is so fashionable today is to construct a certain image of femininity, which is an ideological construct, as you know, more gentle dialogical, interactive — so on, so on — which fits perfectly today’s global capitalism.”
In signature fashion, Žižek offered a provocative example of (what he said is “almost”) toxic masculine behavior being used productively: Greta Thunberg’s speech to the United Nations about climate change.
“She’s not this caricatural woman,” he said. “You know, like, ‘Solve, let’s have a dialog.’ — ‘No! Fuck you! What dialogue? Act!’ And so on, you know? That’s the women I like!”
Has masculinity as been this wafer thin fragile or is it just amplified now in the post Trump social media age?
Men have just gone nutty with it thanks to twitter and social media though.
I think there's also an element of emotional immaturity (dunno if there's a better word?) A decent chunk of men seem totally incapable from moving on from being 13 yr olds making up blatant lies to impress their mates about fights they were in and girls they shagged (from another town, you're not cool enough to know them) and live with this barely concealed terror that people will call them on their bullshit cos they actually spent Sat eve hanging about Morrison's car park before having to go home early cos the second WKD made em puke in the ornamental flower beds so to speak.
I have no idea if this pillock has all those cars, but I can say for absolute certainty that even if they are real, deep down they really don't feel real to him.
and live with this barely concealed terror that people will call them on their bullshit cos they actually spent Sat eve hanging about Morrison’s car park before having to go home early cos the second WKD made em puke in the ornamental flower beds so to speak.
lmao this is probably a little too British for Hexbear but you are spot on.
It certainly makes it easier to get mad at people you otherwise would never have known, but guys have been finding ways to get mad about their dicks forever.
Its different now, but its different in all the same ways. Its like poetry, it rhymes.
Masculinity has always and primarily been defined in opposition to femininity. Indeed it can only exist as a contrast to whatever is seen as feminine. This leads it in pretty weird directions.
I've never heard of that show, but nothing about that sentence surprises me
I think it's more fragile today because feminism has so undermined "traditional" (read: Western Europe post-1700) masculinity. Masculinity has, for the vast majority of agricultural history, never actually been challenged. For the last 100 years, however, moreso every decade, there has been a growing cultural awareness of how much that "traditional" masculinity fucking sucks. Fragility is reaction, and reaction only exists in response to progress.
I would also point out that, although Western European forms of patriarchy have been exported to cultures all over the world, most cultures - even ones with very different norms of gender - were/are still fundamentally patriarchal. Where those old structures remain, they are often equally reactionary to the assertion of agency by non-men.
For a couple hundred years wealthy men could only handle strong emotions by shooting each other with pistols
Imagne a time when even insinuating to a man that he was in any way mildly feminine resulted if getting into a fistfight lol.
Like when everyone was cool with sending their sons off to the trench warfare meat grinder of WWI because society was too soft?
And the daughters took up the slack by handing white feathers to the men who didn't go to war, accusing them of being cowards, causing psychic damage and shaming many into joining the killing machine.
i mean patriarchy was a much more dominant social logic which has declined and warped as capitalism has found it to be unnecessary. it's useful in economies which rely on unpaid reproductive labor, but in a country with an enormous service industry and desk jobs which wish to supplant the family, traditional patriarchical values become more of a liability.
I think its more that capital no longer wants to pay for imperial core labor, so the discipline of patriarchy is no longer necessary. It can be mostly relegated to a cultural battle that capital can parasitize off off. Not to even remotely imply that women's liberation is not central to a truly liberated future, only to elucidate why girl boss feminism is and had been the dominant thread in the imperial core.
okay yeah i see that, that's a much better analysis than mine
Your analysis isn't unsound, I just tend to think capital is less deliberative in it's processes. It also explains why birth rates tend to fall in developed capitalists nations while they continue to grow in periphery regions, it makes sense to just buy cheap labor from an "externalized" source rather than bother to pay for social reproduction/expansion. More importantly it explains the declining birthrate trend in imperial core countries without falling back on fascist Malthusian bullshit that places the onus on individuals and morality.
We now have a generation of bourgeois assholes who are social media literate and extremely online.
Unless this guy has invented a way to drive 33 cars at the same time, his emissions aren't any higher than someone who owns one car and drives as much as he does.
Sure, but he was talking about the emissions of each car, and I'm betting he never even drives most of them. They just sit in a garage, existing only as a trophy that nobody ever even sees. As you say, definitely still wasteful, but it's not like they're all belching emissions all at the same time.
It's not enviromentally viable to manufacture 32 cars to sit around before they eventually get trashed.
I'm not saying he's made good choices in life, I'm saying that what he wrote doesn't even make sense.
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Hey Greta I just ground some coal up and snorted it. What are you gonna do Greta? You gonna cry Greta? I'm not owned Greta, it is you who are owned. I love huffing coal. You can't stop me Greta. I'm going to force my friends and family to huff some too. Because I'm a piss-poo-poo baby who wallows in shit so you have to smell it.
i wouldn't call how that dude moves "walking", it's some form of unintentional slinking with his legs on backwards
I don’t either and just had a “curse you bunker mode” :shake-fist: moment.
How can anyone look at a goober like tate and see anything other than a walking, breathing insecurity?
It's got to be a grift, right? That whole thing on how books are dumb can't can't be a bit. I refuse to believe any human being, even Andrew Tate, is actually that stupid.
Should have got triples… yea, triples is best. Triples makes it safe
You know what makes you a real man? Trying to bully a teenager about how much your shitty cars emit.
I'm somewhat more forgiving of that sort of language if it's weaponized against demons in skin suits—especially from an autistic teenager—but you're right. We stan all short kings here, no matter where or how short they are.
I personally am not more forgiving for this language because it perpetuates senses of shame many men feel, the vast majority of whom are not Andrew Tate level misogynists.
With the collateral damage being perpetuating language that is harmful to many men who are not the enemy
Not really, because I am one of those people. How am I supposed to feel when the entire internet is clowning on a guy for "small dick energy"? He's a total and complete asshole no doubt, but I'm nothing like him and I'm left feeling worse about myself than he probably does.
I apologize for being so flippant. I'm fat as hell. I know all about body shame. And I had to learn to harden myself against generalized shaming of fat people for being fat in general, because it's pretty fucking all-pervasive. Don't feel bad about your body issues. Shit's genetic; not like you can do exercises about it or anything. But since the sentiment is out there, it's not like people will stop making the jokes anytime soon. But anyone who would actually personally shame you for your body is a piece of shit, full stop.
For what it's worth, "SDE" is primarily a descriptor of attitude. It's about openly displaying transparent insecurity about your worthiness as a man by trying to cover for it with shallow indicators of social status, like money or cars or memberships or some other source of prestige that has nothing to do with a person and everything to do with what is in that person's possession. There's probably less cruel ways to state it though.
Sorry if I hurt your feelings.
Don’t feel bad about your body issues
You and I both know that can't happen as long as body shaming men is totally socially acceptable. Like you said you deal with this just in a different way, so I know I don't have to explain that to you.
But since the sentiment is out there, it’s not like people will stop making the jokes anytime soon.
I know, but still hearing it all the time does affect me. Im sure it affects other men too, but you can't even say anything about it because then you out yourself. I'm taking one for the team though here.
For what it’s worth, “SDE” is primarily a descriptor of attitude.
I don't think you meant it this way, but I feel gaslit every time someone says this. Even if its about "attitude" the central concept of the joke is small dick = bad and shameful, big dick = good and worthy of pride.
Sorry if I hurt your feelings.
You didn't, I just had to say something after seeing the OP interaction everywhere yesterday, and I felt that people on this site would be more cognizant than others.
I know what you mean and at the same time I laughed out loud when I saw Greta's post, and enjoyed the fact that it probably did hurt Tate's feelings considering it took him 10 fucking hours to come back with a video that was by all accounts basically just "no u"
It's a guilty laugh for sure, but seriously, fuck Andrew Tate. Discouraging that kind of obnoxious self-absorbed peacocking bullshit is an acceptable positive effect of that joke.
