No link, because why the fuck would you link to this garbage
Peterson: A man who tells everyone to “be clear in their speech” cannot write a simple sentence and/or point, regardless of how monstrous, etc. without, convoluting it with every type of punctuation; at once.
But what does "be clear in your speech" mean? We just don't know :jbp:
Well, and this is what the Marxists never want to tel you, that depends on what you, as a person, mean when you communicate the utterance “speech”. Is it online, is it text based, or is it the realm of chaos? Who can really tell what speech means these days
It means that every time someone accuses you of being rude or indiscreet you can say "all I was doing was speaking plainly."
Is calling it a "nose job" rather than a "rhinoplasty" likewise monstrously amoral then?
oh no it's only immoral when you transgress against his personal notions of gender norms. Getting your nose modified or having breast augmentation is fine as long as you're a cis woman bc cis women are supposed to be objects of beauty for cis men blah blah blah blatant misogyny.
I doubt he is capable of seeing his hypocrisy here because he has not ever and probably will not ever draw an equivalent between elective cosmetic surgeries.
I know it's because he's not-so-secretly a staunch catholic, and all his moral philosophy is just trying to find nominally secular justifications for that, but it's funny to imagine what moral issue one could possibly raise about a guy getting his tits removed. like sure he gave well informed consent after jumping through the hoops of the medical industrial complex, and he's clearly much happier now, but GOD SAID SAVE THE BOOBYS
It's an overlooked component of transphobia directed at trans men that they are loathed for their ability to completely deny the male objectification of AFAB people in a way that's even more total than what the butchest lesbian is capable of. A lesbian is still routinely fetishized, but getting your breasts removed, becoming able to grow a beard, maybe even going bald, that's completely pissing over straight dude's claims to all bodies read as feminine and it's driving this wreck of a man insane. It's very clear to me Peepeeterson had a raging boner fro pre-transition Elliot Page, maybe he still finds him attractive, and he can't handle that at all.
Not that these transphobes know this, but there's also a long history of butches doing those things. But your point is still very well taken
Yeah, butches are probably hit harder by the bathroom panic than many trans women. I don't pass well yet, but when i go to a public bathroom while masked and wearing a skirt and one of my nice ladylike cloaks, nobody bats an eye. And i don't even have my name and legal gender changed yet (because my country really is backwards as hell in that regard), terfs will be furious when they find out i'm using the lady's room without the proper papers lol.
Oh wait, ID cards in my country don't even say which gender you are, no wonder we have bathroom anarchy! :stalin-stressed:
The fact that getting my tits removed and donating them to a trans woman would make transphobes seethe and cry just makes me want to do it more. :party-sicko:
Some day soon a trans woman is going to carry a pregnancy to term and give birth and then we won't have any problems forever again because all the assholes in the worlds head's will literally explode.
There's already been some successful trials for womb transplants for cis women, albeit just for long enough to carry a pregnancy. We're not THAT far off
Yeah it's this bizarre notion that your body is subject to the control of society or something. Consent doesn't matter to him bc he thinks transgressing social norms is in and of itself immoral without any regard for whether it's harming anyone. Cause he's a freak.
I think what I am about to say applies to the ideological frameworks of most conservatives but for most it is unconscious where as for Catholics it is active and explicit. Catholicism is explicitly built on a framework of neoplatonism and in this structure there materially exists a higher plane of "ideas," which they equate with god, where the ideal form of all things exists. In this framework a trans person "changing their body" is a contravention of this ideal world as created by god. From here you get discussions of substances and appearances and characteristics, it is all EXTENSIVELY thought out and logically valid just really really stupid because the apriori assumptions are really stupid. This is one reasons that the church came out vocally against trans people as directly attacking god, because since humanity is made in gods image changing gender identities attack the idea of god. I am sure an actual neoplatonist/catholic will come along and say I am straw manning them or getting their beliefs wrong or something, but honestly this is the rough just of it as I remember from theology class in HS and the courses I took in college; and tbqh I don't care because it was never convincing even when a priest taught it and I had to memorize it for an exam.
. I am sure an actual neoplatonist/catholic will come along and say I am straw manning them or getting their beliefs wrong or something,
good fuck em
Poll: Do my followers agree with me about the issue that they followed me because of my opinion on it? Wow they do? The people have spoken!
the meaningless Latin he threw in there to sound intellectual
or did he mean 'ipso facto'
A yeti, saving infinite children drowning in infinite ponds. Behold, a moral monster.
I was going to say this.
The way he uses moral monster all the time is clearly supposed to be a crypto-religious crudgel to align people doing benign things with Hitler or the Devil.
But whenever I read it I just imagine a nice, furry, cuddly storybook monster that teaches kids about sharing and being nice to each other and so on.
Which admittedly is probably the same thing he imagines too, but is warped enough to think that is a horrifying image on the level of Hitler or the Devil.
align people doing benign things with Hitler or the Devil.
Fairly sure he had Stalin in mind, mfer always gets that feverish glow on his face whenever he's blathering about how powerful the Führer's charisma was. He's very obviously a total Adolf Hitler fanboi.
I'm a de jure moral monster. I have the rules for being a moral monster written out on a little card in my wallet, and I always consult the card before making big decisions.
de facto means "in fact" or "as actually practiced" while "de jure' means "what the law says" with the implication that the law is not being followed. I'm not even sure if they're real Latin or just dog Latin that has become an English expression. But both terms are pretty commonly used. I'd honestly never even considered that they were Latin until you mentioned it.
'de facto' doesn't really add anything to the tweet.
It's not grammatically incorrect there or gibberish, but it's redundant.
'ipso facto' is I think what he meant: if they do x, they are ipso facto a monster
damn ok guess all trans people are evil or something, and that definitely isnt the same as simply calling us evil for existing
Not born evil, just got that evil top surgery (the one that turns you into da jokah :jokerfication: :jokerfied: )
He's definitely suffered some sort of brain damage, he seems much more erratic and incoherent before his medically induced comma. This one feels like mostly the old Peterson with some of his filter gone, lol. Maybe we should put some of the centrist cryptofascists in medical comas for a while so they can't hide who they are?
Benzo addiction will FUCK your shit up. I would not be the LEAST bit surprised if this was the case here.
Not quite the same thing, but I used to work with a guy who had been hit by a car and was in a coma for 6 months, he told everyone that he had also smoked crack for years before the coma and used to be a in a gang where he was called Blood Drop (Dude looked like Joe Dirt). He would walk up and down the aisles gobbling like a Turkey.
Well, his own daughter reported in a right wing newspaper that frequently did friendly interviews with him that he still had trouble walking and typing on his own weeks after he came out of the coma, and that was before he got covid in Serbia while she was dating Andrew Tate. It makes perfect sense that he's not been quite the same since then. Would also explain why he quit academics afterwards.
The academia part is a good point. He had some performative objection to wokeness or something, but I don't care if my coworkers are axe murderers, you're not going to make me leave a 6 figure tenured job.
Yeah, he claimed he left because his poor wittle students are all discriminated against for beign white cishet dudes (kinda telling on himself that only white cishet dudes want to write their doctoral thesis under JBP), but i'm not buying that. He's got his cult following, he's got his job at the daily wire, these are things he can pull off even after all the damage he sustained during his detox desaster. But making sure that the docotoral thesises of his alt-right weirdo students are accepted? Holding up in a classroom when students decide to go Zizek on his ass? I think that'd be a big ask for him nowadays.
The weirdest part about JP is his followers think he's basically a socialist, but like one of the good ones. His main audience has never read anything in their lives.
His main audience has never read anything in their lives.
Yes. Yes. So much this.
his followers think he’s basically a socialist
really? I have never heard of anything like that. his followers seem to be anti-socialist (generic alt-right dudes) and don't think JBP is like that
It's just anecdotal, but I've seen them describe the Peterson in various terms, from centrist to liberal to even socialist sometimes. I saw one guy claim Peterson is a socialist because he named his daughter after Gorbachev, so that's the level of guy we're talking about. Sometimes they'll use it to make a nonsense point like "he used to be a liberal but wokeness has gone too far."
if that's what it takes to count as Socialist, then Sweden is Socialist because they have Gorby brand pelmini in the frozen foods section.
Germany's most popular bottom shelf wodka brand is called Gorbatschof (German latinization of Gorbachev).
I encountered one in the wild that was insistent that he's agnostic and largely apolitical, he just tells it like it is!
Yeah, this is what no political or philosophical education does to a motherfucker
In face of global climate crisis, ongoing pandemic, wars, and historic inequity, a local Toronto madman and former meth addict blames language and euphemisms as the cause of moral decay.
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Has he written anything on the impact rap music has had wrt to inner cities?
morality is when no cosmetic surgery. I am a professor I profess beliefs whether anyone wants to hear them or not.
Top surgery and bottom surgery refer to different procedures for trans men and trans women, Jordan.
transphobes and not understanding medicine and anatomy, name a more iconic duo
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