Domestic violence, false imprisonment changes of a girlfriend from January 2020 that were hidden until now.
This union buster is a piece of garbage! Who would have guessed?
Domestic violence, false imprisonment changes of a girlfriend from January 2020 that were hidden until now.
This union buster is a piece of garbage! Who would have guessed?
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I never intend to actually hurt or anger anyone, except when i have this overwhelming urge to hurt or anger a ton of people :very-intelligent:
It was a very white comment (ok fine not all Whites do this, just most, and all it takes is most)
They'll just literally contradict themselves within the same sentence, but they'll be so busy "emoting" with themselves that they'll feel like they actually said something substantive.
1 = 2
He just had to. He just had to make a cartoon about (CW: extreme violence, including sexual, against children)
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"The cartoon begins with two young boys who decide to go for a swim in the ocean naked. They get into the water and one child drowns and is shown under the water bleeding and being eaten by something. It just gets worse from there. The other boy then gets out of the water to go get a snack. A naked adult backs up toward him and defecates into the child’s mouth. The next cartoon features a character that looks like a shriveled raisin going to his home, where he has two children tied up who are shaking and scared. Above them is a clock with a penis and a swinging testicle. The gray thing tells the children that since he’s been sexually gratified he must get rid of them. He then takes a knife and skins one child’s face and wears it as his own while he skins the other child’s face. In the next cartoon, a man in the park starts asking a child if he wants to see something, promising not to “stick my dick in you.” Then he pulls out a knife, stabs the child in the stomach, and proceeds to rape the knife wound while yelling “I’m f*cking the stab hole”
(@walletbaby summarized it; I didn't watch it myself and I'm glad I didn't)
That's it. That's the context of Roiland's :reddit-logo: post. Never intended to actually hurt or anger anyone.
I never liked Roiland but now I can't help but wonder what we don't know about him yet, the hateful creep.
It's mainly white because most white dudes I know (being :lmayo: myself) don't ever grow up from being edgy teens or reflect on shit, then they get into positions that make sure that the reflection cannot happen.
He said he had no intention in the quote, so that makes the quote self-reflective which means he's not so bad! :sus:
ah yes, that's the "baby i never meant to hurt you all the thousands of times i did hurt you, that was always just because i cannot comprehend that other human beings have feelings and opinions different from mine" part of the statement
I remember when he said he "loved" his workers while in the same rant also said they could be easily replaced by an algorithm.
I love my workers just as i love this burger here!
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It wasn't reflective enough for him to not beat his girlfriend and lock her in his house.
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:fry: Because that statement came from a vacuum and every part of Justin Roiland is an airtight sealed compartment where nothing interacts with anything else.
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It was to some extent evidence of his shittiness because he has both been a shitty person to his girlfriend (and before that, his own workers) and used his money and connections to hide that overt shittiness for roughly 3 years, if not longer. If you're "not defending him," what are you trying to do here?
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You seemed to be really going out of your way to defend that one quote by one shitty person, a quote that claims he's just pretending to be shitty and "gets off on shocking/making people uncomfortable" but also "never intended to actually hurt or anger anyone" which seems kind of contradictory goals. Also, they clearly didn't apply to his girlfriend years later. Or his workers for that matter.
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Contextually, I will continue to argue that that quote isn't doing him any favors in the present and is more of a case builder for him being a bad person all along. :edgeworth-shrug:
That oh so wholesome "self reflection" was apparently kind of ineffective if he winds up being a worker abuser and domestic violence perpetrator years afterward.
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I only fixed some typos. It's kind of a habit of mine to rearrange things I wrote for a minute or two after I wrote them. What I said is still there.
I made no such accusations of you. I expressed bewilderment over going that far over a dubious quote for someone you claimed you weren't defending.
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I did add more content, now that you mention it. I sincerely apologize for understating what I added. It is a bad habit to keep tweaking what I wrote instead of just getting it perfect before I put it down.
We can just agree to disagree about what we were arguing about.
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I am sorry for doing that, especially when you were still writing your reply.
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I should know better. I do sometimes add "EDIT" notes but not nearly enough. I sincerely appreciate the reminder of how annoying and potentially worse it can be to be too fast and loose with editing.
I do the same shit, it comes from typing shit out at work and then re reading it. Helps to think of the reply button as the same as "send email"
That's a good way to see it. I should start doing that.
No fighting over something so stupid! Go argue about outdoor cats or revisionism or something else productive.
No fight here. I was called out for being too fast and loose with editing right after sending without an "EDIT" note, and I own up to that being a bad habit.
:stalin-heart:
I get what you're saying and it was just a random reddit post (about sexual assault in his cartoon), but this bit:
Reads like like one of those narcissist's prayer memes; "I've never done that. I'm not sorry that I do that. I have atoned with money."
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He did write that 9 years ago and then got richer, more connected, and more powerful after that. It apparently made him worse.
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I'm guessing he didn't say that because #MeToo was at its height, Dan Harmon had just gone through his own confession, and R&M's viewership is like 40% women. He almost certainly received coaching about all of this at some point, and probably didn't want to piss off the money god.
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Doesn't have to be. A PR consultant's job is to stop you from spilling more gasoline on the fire where you are. They teach you how to behave in public, not just in one interview. Typing cartoon network "pr consultant" into google brought up a lot of linked-in profiles, so they certainly use them.
Ultimately you're right, we'd have to be psychic to truly understand what he meant in that moment, and we're left to our own modern interpretation. The history of shitting on his employees, abusing a woman, and defending people like Dave Chapelle makes my interpretation very unkind.
Edit: Sorry if I was playing too fast and loose with editing, simply trying to be clearer. Hope we're all good!
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It's no Bo Burnham level journey of self-reflection
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It's not much but he went from terrible comedy to a really weird and depressing Netflix covid special, and apologizing and regretting much of his early stuff. It's not much, but I do get a sense that he had a some kind of awareness of his whiteness.
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eh not really
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It's all ironic rage and hatred! :so-true:
:stalin-gun-1::stalin-gun-2: