Domestic violence, false imprisonment changes of a girlfriend from January 2020 that were hidden until now.

This union buster is a piece of garbage! Who would have guessed?

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      I never intend to actually hurt or anger anyone, except when i have this overwhelming urge to hurt or anger a ton of people :very-intelligent:

      • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        It was a very white comment (ok fine not all Whites do this, just most, and all it takes is most)

        They'll just literally contradict themselves within the same sentence, but they'll be so busy "emoting" with themselves that they'll feel like they actually said something substantive.

        I never intend to actually hurt or anger anyone
        if I feel like I just have to make something horrible that might offend a lot of people

        1 = 2

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          if I feel like I just have to make something horrible that might offend a lot of people

          He just had to. He just had to make a cartoon about (CW: extreme violence, including sexual, against children)

          spoiler

          "The cartoon begins with two young boys who decide to go for a swim in the ocean naked. They get into the water and one child drowns and is shown under the water bleeding and being eaten by something. It just gets worse from there. The other boy then gets out of the water to go get a snack. A naked adult backs up toward him and defecates into the child’s mouth. The next cartoon features a character that looks like a shriveled raisin going to his home, where he has two children tied up who are shaking and scared. Above them is a clock with a penis and a swinging testicle. The gray thing tells the children that since he’s been sexually gratified he must get rid of them. He then takes a knife and skins one child’s face and wears it as his own while he skins the other child’s face. In the next cartoon, a man in the park starts asking a child if he wants to see something, promising not to “stick my dick in you.” Then he pulls out a knife, stabs the child in the stomach, and proceeds to rape the knife wound while yelling “I’m f*cking the stab hole”

          (@walletbaby summarized it; I didn't watch it myself and I'm glad I didn't)

          That's it. That's the context of Roiland's :reddit-logo: post. Never intended to actually hurt or anger anyone.

          I never liked Roiland but now I can't help but wonder what we don't know about him yet, the hateful creep.

        • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          It's mainly white because most white dudes I know (being :lmayo: myself) don't ever grow up from being edgy teens or reflect on shit, then they get into positions that make sure that the reflection cannot happen.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        He said he had no intention in the quote, so that makes the quote self-reflective which means he's not so bad! :sus:

        • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          ah yes, that's the "baby i never meant to hurt you all the thousands of times i did hurt you, that was always just because i cannot comprehend that other human beings have feelings and opinions different from mine" part of the statement

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I remember when he said he "loved" his workers while in the same rant also said they could be easily replaced by an algorithm.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I’d also say it perhaps a bit more self reflective than what you’d get from most edgy comedy type dudes.

        It wasn't reflective enough for him to not beat his girlfriend and lock her in his house.

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Well, obviously, but that statement quoted isn’t about that so…

            Not defending him or anything

            :fry: Because that statement came from a vacuum and every part of Justin Roiland is an airtight sealed compartment where nothing interacts with anything else.

              • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                It was to some extent evidence of his shittiness because he has both been a shitty person to his girlfriend (and before that, his own workers) and used his money and connections to hide that overt shittiness for roughly 3 years, if not longer. If you're "not defending him," what are you trying to do here?

                  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    You seemed to be really going out of your way to defend that one quote by one shitty person, a quote that claims he's just pretending to be shitty and "gets off on shocking/making people uncomfortable" but also "never intended to actually hurt or anger anyone" which seems kind of contradictory goals. Also, they clearly didn't apply to his girlfriend years later. Or his workers for that matter.

                      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                        2 years ago

                        Contextually, I will continue to argue that that quote isn't doing him any favors in the present and is more of a case builder for him being a bad person all along. :edgeworth-shrug:

                        That oh so wholesome "self reflection" was apparently kind of ineffective if he winds up being a worker abuser and domestic violence perpetrator years afterward.

                          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                            2 years ago

                            Edit: if you’re gonna keep editing your comments can you put it under “edit” so it doesn’t look like I’m ignoring half the shit you’re saying.

                            I only fixed some typos. It's kind of a habit of mine to rearrange things I wrote for a minute or two after I wrote them. What I said is still there.

                            Please don’t act like I was saying “woah Justin is such a deep dude who struggles with his demons! I want to slobber on his thick knob! Wubba Lubba Dub Dub!”

                            I made no such accusations of you. I expressed bewilderment over going that far over a dubious quote for someone you claimed you weren't defending.

                              • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                                2 years ago

                                I did add more content, now that you mention it. I sincerely apologize for understating what I added. It is a bad habit to keep tweaking what I wrote instead of just getting it perfect before I put it down.

                                We can just agree to disagree about what we were arguing about.

                                  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                                    2 years ago

                                    I am sorry for doing that, especially when you were still writing your reply.

                                      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                                        2 years ago

                                        I should know better. I do sometimes add "EDIT" notes but not nearly enough. I sincerely appreciate the reminder of how annoying and potentially worse it can be to be too fast and loose with editing.

                                        • Grandpa_garbagio [he/him]
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                                          2 years ago

                                          I do the same shit, it comes from typing shit out at work and then re reading it. Helps to think of the reply button as the same as "send email"

                                          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                                            2 years ago

                                            Helps to think of the reply button as the same as “send email”

                                            That's a good way to see it. I should start doing that.

                                        • CrimsonSage [any]
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                                          2 years ago

                                          No fighting over something so stupid! Go argue about outdoor cats or revisionism or something else productive.

                                          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                                            2 years ago

                                            No fight here. I was called out for being too fast and loose with editing right after sending without an "EDIT" note, and I own up to that being a bad habit.

      • JustAnotherCourier [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        I get what you're saying and it was just a random reddit post (about sexual assault in his cartoon), but this bit:

        ... I never intend to actually hurt or anger anyone. And often times if I feel like I just have to make something horrible that might offend a lot of people, I’ll donate a bunch of money to an appropriate charity to make up for it.

        Reads like like one of those narcissist's prayer memes; "I've never done that. I'm not sorry that I do that. I have atoned with money."

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            He did write that 9 years ago and then got richer, more connected, and more powerful after that. It apparently made him worse.

          • JustAnotherCourier [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            I'm guessing he didn't say that because #MeToo was at its height, Dan Harmon had just gone through his own confession, and R&M's viewership is like 40% women. He almost certainly received coaching about all of this at some point, and probably didn't want to piss off the money god.

              • JustAnotherCourier [none/use name]
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                2 years ago

                not some official interview with the press.

                Doesn't have to be. A PR consultant's job is to stop you from spilling more gasoline on the fire where you are. They teach you how to behave in public, not just in one interview. Typing cartoon network "pr consultant" into google brought up a lot of linked-in profiles, so they certainly use them.

                Ultimately you're right, we'd have to be psychic to truly understand what he meant in that moment, and we're left to our own modern interpretation. The history of shitting on his employees, abusing a woman, and defending people like Dave Chapelle makes my interpretation very unkind.

                Edit: Sorry if I was playing too fast and loose with editing, simply trying to be clearer. Hope we're all good!

      • OgdenTO [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        It's no Bo Burnham level journey of self-reflection

          • OgdenTO [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            It's not much but he went from terrible comedy to a really weird and depressing Netflix covid special, and apologizing and regretting much of his early stuff. It's not much, but I do get a sense that he had a some kind of awareness of his whiteness.

      • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Eh, this is kinda weird but I’d also say it perhaps a bit more self reflective than what you’d get from most edgy comedy type dudes.

        eh not really

    • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      Sometime I get off on shocking/ making people uncomfortable

      :stalin-gun-1::stalin-gun-2: