Notable quotes from OP:
Sure the FBI sent information to Twitter, but Twitter and Facebook etc. had the freedom to decide how to act on it.
They asked social media agencies to try to limit vaccine disinformation and far right extremism. It's a far cry from Chinese state media where any criticism of the state is punishable by arrest.
Go on about Assange all you like but he's a tool and Chelsea Manning proves we let people off easy for leaking state secrets
I support your free speech to go on with your Russian propaganda false equivalence nonsense, a freedom that would not be afforded to me if I tried arguing the evils of Putin in Russia.
yes invading Iraq was wrong, but a) we had and made use of the freedom to protest it and b) the plan wasn't to annex Iraq the way Putin is trying to do with Ukraine, for those people (not me) who supported it, it was to give them democracy and then let them vote on their own leaders in the aftermath of 9/11.
Afghanistan came first but both were GW Bush mistakes and I very much doubt our governments/NATO would make the same type of interventions now.
(About Iraq War) At least we had the freedom to protest and even the people who supported it had democratic ideals
Some notable takes from other :LIB: in the thread too, actually the whole thread is a gold mine. Have a look if you can tolerate being on :reddit-logo:
this trick defeats libs every time.
as long as the govt control over media is all "unofficial" and wink wink, it doesnt exist. to be fair, there's something to be said about the west having a superior technique for controlling the media. there's no visible office of censorship, it just ... happens. invisible hand of the market. it's clearly a better way the fool these rubes.
it's just like them being absolutely unable to see a nazi until the nazi says "i am a nazi, sieg heil"
I’m not sure how to de-program that reflex out of a person.
if we knew that, we'd know how to get people to grow up into communists instead of fascists... communism would've already won
so yeah
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There's a good chance you're right but I still find the idea that most Westerners are hopeless to be viscerally disgusting.
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Revolutionary defeatism, friend. If anyone invades the USA I'm surrendering to them immediately, like Otto Dix in WW2. I'm not sacrificing my life to defend Burgertown.
The government usually doesn't just ask, they pay. They subsidize the effort outside of the grant system. Like how they give pro-american war movies a ton of money for 'edits' and access to military equipment for filming.
Either that or they got a credible threat that they would be shut down.
Doing the things they asked took a considerable about of effort and was likely expensive.
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