• culpritus [any]
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    2 years ago

    “German-made tanks will face off against Russian tanks in Ukraine once more,” he said, adding that this was “not an easy thought” for Germany, which takes its responsibility for the horrors of World War II seriously.

    • VILenin [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I realize that all of you will die as I pave the path to WWIII, but, and I say this with a heavy heart, that is a sacrifice I am willing to make.

  • Multihedra [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Highly sus. At first the language made me think a tank “company” is defined to be 14 tanks while a “battalion” was defined to be 88 (which would be even more sus, but I’d want to know where the numbering scheme came from)

    But I don’t think there are precise numerics like that for the formations, so it seems to be Germany being sketchy as hell

      • Staines [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        A tank platoon in NATO/Ukrainian doctrine is 4 tanks, not the Soviet/Russian doctrine 3 tanks.

        A tank company is 3 platoons, plus a command tank (so, 13).

        A tank battalion is 3 companies, plus a command tank (so, 40).

        Two battalions would be 80, so I'm not sure how they arrived at the numbers 14 or 88.

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Can't wait for westoid military chauvanists to twist themselves into knots when Russian anti tank missiles end up doing what they say on the tin.

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      2 years ago

      America took artillery shells out of South Korea to donate them to Ukraine. We’ll see if that was a good idea in a few years maybe.

  • aaro [they/them, she/her]
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    2 years ago

    alright, I'll say it, this has to be either an accident or one or a couple powerful people shitposting. Something as impactful as the quantity of produced vehicles - which is never arbitrary, it's always driven by budget, time constraints, floor space, or some other factor - would be pretty unwise to use as a dogwhistle. Even if they are dogwhistling here... to whom? Why? It's not like this recruits anyone.

    Ukraine and Germany are crawling with Nazis ofc but using something like a quantity of tanks to advertise that fact seems... unlikely. The positives of doing this are nothing as far as I can tell, and the negatives are, well, being compellingly tied to nazis when they're already fighting that propaganda battle. In fact, 14 words is an English phrase, and this is a German-speaking country dealing with a Ukrainian-speaking country; there's no guarantee that the translation is even 14 words long.

    • 420stalin69
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      2 years ago

      I think they realize Germany sending tanks into Ukraine to fight Russia is so obviously a rerun of WW2 that they want to trivialize that similarity.

      “Just because they’re using the numbers 14 and 88 doesn’t mean they’re Nazis bro, obviously any opposition to this is just some Qanon numerology bullshit.”

      It’s a trap card. They want to make the conservation about these numbers and the meaning behind them, which is easy to trivialize since it is actually a trivial detail, it’s an attention grabbing trivial detail which forces the conversation to be about that rather than the fact this is a rerun of WW2.

    • pooh [she/her, any]
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      2 years ago

      Considering we’re talking about German here, it’s very possible that the words were combined into one gigantic word, like donaudampfschiffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft or something.

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I'm in full tinfoil hat conspiracy mode about how the deep state is deliberately strewing Nazi dogwhistles all over the mainstream media just to fuck with us.

  • RikerDaxism [it/its]
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    2 years ago

    I heard that all Russian tanks were destroyed so this should be very useful