https://www.businessinsider.com/hbos-the-last-of-us-episode-three-review-bombed-homophobic-2023-1

Neil Druckmann, the co-creator of the series who also developed the video game, told The Hollywood Reporter that Bill and Frank's relationship "went over a lot of people's heads" in the game.

"At the time, [the subtlety is] what helped get it in," he said. "It's sad to say, but it would have been controversial otherwise."

  • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Spouse got me to watch this in spite of my initial "I'm sick of zombie shit" hesitance, and this most recent episode had me bawling. Didn't expect Nick Offerman's performance in a zombie video game show to evoke strong feelings but it really was very beautiful and sad.

    Uh, in short gamers delenda est

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      That episode had everyone bawling. I had to stock up on more handkerchiefs halfway through, it's so incredibly emotional. In every LGBT space i come across, everybody's like " i cried so much during this, it was so beautiful".

      And it also seems that every anti-LGBT space is full of people crying. Except they cry "Noooooooo they made based prepper man gaaaaaayy" :wojak-nooo:

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Except they cry “Noooooooo they made based prepper man gaaaaaayy”

        But he was always gay. He was gay in the first game, which was released what, 9 or 10 years ago? I legitimately do not understand this from the chuds, did they play a completely different video game to the one I did?

        • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          idk you have to take into account that these people are really fucking dumb

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Except they cry “Noooooooo they made based prepper man gaaaaaayy”

        That makes me cry with tears of the most sweetest laughter

    • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Literally what happened with Anita Sarkeesian, G*mers demanded video games be taken as a serious artform so she decided to do a pop-feminist critique of games and they lost their fucking minds. These assholes want the respect of the art world without actually doing the heavy lifting.

  • TornadoThompson [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Part One of the game is coming to PC soon - the Steam reviews are going to be a fucking shitshow.

    Chud fuckery has even infected the normally chill comments sections of a few torrent sites. Comments for this episode are horrendous.

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      I forget the show, but there was one I was tormenting way back and one commenter kept reviewing each episode in the review section and the replies were always that it's meant to comment on whether the torrent is having issues, if the quality is good, if it's actually a virus etc. Not like, reviewing the show itself. It was pretty funny.

      • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I like vague comments about the episode. Stumbling on stuff from 14 years ago that's like "wow very relevant" and trying to decipher what it could be referencing is fun.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I find most torrent trackers I frequent there's at least some pushback to CHUDery (and normaly chuds are the most vocal generally). For this episode tho there's one comment about how the person cried during the episode and a dozen comments complaining that the codec used doesn't work on their TV lmao.

      • TornadoThompson [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        Oh aye, there are a few people who bite back but it stinks when you click on comments and you see a wall of slurs and misery.

  • Tommasi [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    I'm amazed it would go over anyone's head in game. I know you could miss a letter from his boyfriend or something if you were careless, but it wasn't like Bill being gay was only being hinted at.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      There's literally a cutscene in the game where the characters stumble upon gay porn mags left in a car from Bill lol. Nothing subtle about it

      • Tommasi [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        Perhaps he's just a dude who likes the aesthetics of gay porn

    • Phew [any, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Once you read one of the "Objectively, THING_NAME it's a well crafted masterpiece®™" you have read them all.

      • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        It's always either a generic game that doesn't fit the console stereotype (Xbox exclusive jrpg, playstation exclusive shooter, nintendo exclusive with a right-handed protagonist) or a 4 hour game where you're a leaf blowing in the wind.

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    It wasn't even very subtle in the game, Bill straight up calls Frank his partner, and Bill has a gay porn magazine collection in his car lol. How did people miss that?

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Same people who missed out on the meaning of the Confirmed Bachelor perk in New Vegas

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    i never played the game and have only been watching the show or whatever, so i don't know fuck about shit. i have enjoyed the eps thus far and found this latest one great, of course. i was sort of worried at the beginning at Bill's prepper thing being played unironically, though knowing that the elite panic thing is real [and apparently the driving principle of FEDRA, lmao]. his two lines in the early stages of "not today, jackboots" and the one where he's racking up massive scores while looting and the electric grid cuts off, to him smirking "that didn't take long" made me laugh. what a cynic, i love it!

    anyway, i really appreciated the turn it took, away from purely pragmatic survival (as much as i can totally get into that if done well, like The Martian or whatever) and into concepts of community and purpose, how they matter, and the pull of connection. my reaction to them becoming romantic, i was surprised for sure, but my thought was, "oh man, you two really hit the jackpot compared to everybody else." loved seeing Frank pulling Bill into community, but as a bit of a solo project myself, i appreciated the fragile honesty of Bill's paranoia. being careful is just being full of care. but without Frank, what would Bill have become constantly fighting off raiders with those insane anti-personnel traps and watching zombies get capped by his devices while eating dinner? that looked like it was quickly becoming really dark in a totally understandable way.

    something in the back of my mind as it evolved was that the gamer freaks would lose their shit, despite everything about their relationship being wholesome, romantic and tastefully portrayed. honestly, i could see that being why some are so pissed since it kind of upsets the whole "being gay is only about lust" thing they seem to all need to believe.