https://unofficialbird.com/bidetmarxman/status/1621452328569307142#m
Somewhat overshadowed by yesterday’s “Chinese spy balloon” hysteria was the revelation that the CIA has recently been trying to broker a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine that involves offering 20% of Ukraine to Russia.
Both Kyiv and Moscow rejected the deal but it does raise an interesting question: why might “high-ranking German foreign politicians” have leaked this?
One possibility is that a faction within the German government is rebelling against the continued subjugation of the German economy for the furtherance of US geopolitical objectives.
If so, the leaking of the US-backed deal can be seen as an attempt to embarrass the Biden admin by exposing the vast chasm between their public rhetoric and their private actions and intentions.
Leaking this attempted deal would also perfectly highlight the fantasy of Ukraine as a sovereign state, when a country on the other side of the world supplies all the weapons to extend the conflict while also drawing up the terms of your surrender.
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Funnily enough, a few hours after the Newsweek article was published, the White House issued a statement calling the existence of the offer “not accurate”.
As the old saying goes, never believe anything until it has been officially denied!
I wonder how hard Putin laughed at the offer
That's an extremely good deal for Russia that would end an expensive war
Maybe, maybe not?
Yeah, this war is costly on terms of money and manpower, but if Putin really views Ukraine as essential to Russia's potential to be independent from the west and a tenet of a multipolar world, then the stakes may as well be existential for him.
It may look like a de-escalation or detente, but cynically could be viewed as an invitation to the less overt hostilities, and it may not seem worth it to the party who already felt as though Ukraine abused diplomatic resolutions before, namely in regards to Minsk II.
Wasn't there supposed to be a deal in which part of the terms is that Ukraine cannot join NATO, but can get protection from them, both Russia and Ukraine were ready to accept it, but Boris Johnson destroyed it?
And one of the negotiators got killed, yeah
Well this deal is offering him most of what he wanted and if Ukraine goes against the deal again it would be without the donbass and having lost before
Is it?
Russia will be dragged into another war if the US starts one with China. It's not a good deal if it's only a temporary reprieve before a nuclear world war.
If the US and China get into a war everyone will die so everything would be pointless anyway. That's not going to happen though
I do not have your confidence.
The way the Americans refused to let Poland drag them into a nuclear war over that missile that killed two people is encouraging
Sure but the way rand is openly saying that Ukraine is sucking up military resources that are needed to "compete" with China is not.
they mean in stupid saber rattling and proxy wars in the middle east
Counterpoint: Putin shouldn't stop at Lvov.
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All I ask for is that every last dog-avatar NAFO shit heel be called up for the draft to get obliterated by Russian artillery.
there's no justice in this world though so the only people who feel the cost of war would be the workers of the world
No fate but what we make
Unhinged.