I'm sure my dad's rationale is now something along the lines of how it would be authoritarian for an ex president to face consequences and Biden is too strongly committed to democratic ideals to go down that road. But when Biden won my dad was absolutely sure that Trump was ruined both legally and financially.
I continue to be always right, but I can't take credit. All thanks go to Lenin.
It’s something I notice from my relatives as well. I bring up a point they can’t refute so they change the goalposts or go on a tangent entirely. Of course I don’t want to drag it out too long since I want to preserve our relationship.
To be frank, I can’t be entirely scornful of that since that’s exactly what I did as an evasive tactic when I was a lib/SocDem. It’s scary to actually pull the thread and unravel how the system (which has been sold to you from the very start as “the best option possible”) falls apart when you hold it to scrutiny and wade through the idealistic smog. It does gives me some hope that we can help plant seeds for further radicalization among libs, though.
It can be very disappointing to have your family grasping at straws to prove you wrong, but I don't want to lose the relationship either. It doesn't actually matter what my parents think about the greatness of Fauci and Biden or how terrible it was for China to actually try to contain covid or whatever dumb NYT bullshit.
The sad thing is, my relatives (like my father and various uncles) detest Biden and think he's a tool at best. But some still are holding out hope for the system, and the idea of America they were enamored by when they left their homelands behind and immigrated in the 70s-90s. So I can understand why they sometimes feel defensive.
Another reason of why I don't push is that I don't think I'd be in the position to capitalize on any cracks even if I were successful. I'm not currently involved in political organization or direct action (yet) beyond reading theory so it's not like I'd be offering them any road forward from there.
What does your dad think now?
My best guess is "Ah well, nevertheless"
I'm sure my dad's rationale is now something along the lines of how it would be authoritarian for an ex president to face consequences and Biden is too strongly committed to democratic ideals to go down that road. But when Biden won my dad was absolutely sure that Trump was ruined both legally and financially.
I continue to be always right, but I can't take credit. All thanks go to Lenin.
It’s something I notice from my relatives as well. I bring up a point they can’t refute so they change the goalposts or go on a tangent entirely. Of course I don’t want to drag it out too long since I want to preserve our relationship.
To be frank, I can’t be entirely scornful of that since that’s exactly what I did as an evasive tactic when I was a lib/SocDem. It’s scary to actually pull the thread and unravel how the system (which has been sold to you from the very start as “the best option possible”) falls apart when you hold it to scrutiny and wade through the idealistic smog. It does gives me some hope that we can help plant seeds for further radicalization among libs, though.
It can be very disappointing to have your family grasping at straws to prove you wrong, but I don't want to lose the relationship either. It doesn't actually matter what my parents think about the greatness of Fauci and Biden or how terrible it was for China to actually try to contain covid or whatever dumb NYT bullshit.
The sad thing is, my relatives (like my father and various uncles) detest Biden and think he's a tool at best. But some still are holding out hope for the system, and the idea of America they were enamored by when they left their homelands behind and immigrated in the 70s-90s. So I can understand why they sometimes feel defensive.
Another reason of why I don't push is that I don't think I'd be in the position to capitalize on any cracks even if I were successful. I'm not currently involved in political organization or direct action (yet) beyond reading theory so it's not like I'd be offering them any road forward from there.
Cassandra the original Marxist
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Democracy is when leaders aren't held accountable because it's too authoritarian against...other rich politicians?
Uhmm, sweaty, he's president, not a king.
:whywhywhywhywhy: You have to respect the office of the president!!!!
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