:lets-fucking-go:
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT
What I love most about this is how most politicians have a sort of gentleman's (and I'm using the term as looselyand ironically as possible) agreement to not go after each other for certain things, especially the nonce shit but Trump doesn't play by those rules
Sure it's potentially mutually assured destruction but he just doesn't give a fuck
The best part is that even if DeSantis responds by going after him for his Epstein connection, Trump has the perfect counter prepared because of how much DeSantis worked on the Epstein cover up in Florida as governor
I still hate Trump but this whole thing is just :chefs-kiss:
DeSantis worked on the Epstein cover up in Florida as governor
excuse me what
I’m not even surprised anymore. Yeah, of course, he did that. Why wouldn’t he?
I distinctly remember the state of Florida having a bullshit internal investigation where they found that they did nothing wrong, not unlike every time the cops have an internal investigation into their wrongdoing
Pretty sure he was governor for that
Wasn't the prosecutor who did the catch and release on the trump team at some point?
Probably, I can't remember but that sounds about right
I looked it up and I remembered correctly. It was his labor secretary Jim Acosta.
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/09/739903033/trump-defends-labor-secretary-acosta-over-epstein-plea-deal
That's when we got the epic :illuminati: line: "He belongs to intelligence"
Oh you were talking about the 2007 deal, I though we were still talking about the cover up from 2019 on
Yeah I remember that, also no one seems to want to talk about the Bush admin's Justice department having involvement in that
Really fucked up how he basically received no punishment and was allowed to leave jail every day for like 10 hours at a time
Ron "I showed up to student parties when I was their teacher" DeSantis is totally a grooming son of a wretch and he deserves to burn.
Yeah just read that. Apparently, he was a HS teacher who had drinks at his home with his students?
Lol my HS Drama teacher did this during after parties circa 2004. Would not recommend
:bern-disgust:
That sucks, the worst my high school had were two young teachers in the 20's who were definitely cheating on their spouses with one another and we all knew it
Frankly most of us got bored of gossiping about it but it was obvious they were fucking
One of the teachers in my story was my gym teacher too
Honestly one of the best gym teachers I ever had, he just let us pick whatever game we wanted to play that day and we usually picked basketball or field hockey or kickball or whatever
He was even a pretty good teacher for health class (well as much as he could be at a Catholic school where they wouldn't let him teach sex ed) and while he told us that we shouldn't drink alcohol, he also taught us that if we did we should always drink more water than alcohol to avoid or mitigate getting a hangover
Over a decade later and I've almost never gotten a hangover thanks to him
I’ve subbed as a gym teacher and it is by far the easiest job I’ve ever had. All you have to do is tell the kids to have fun, be nice and inclusive, be safe, and clean up when you’re done. They take care of the rest 99% of the time. It’s ridiculous how the vast majority of gym teachers are surly chuds who didn’t have what it takes to be professional athletes.
that's messed up there were rumors of someone targetting girls at my highschool and the guys would wonder around in groups with the plan of attacking them
I think I naively assumed that everywhere was like this
Similar scenario here but it was an all boys school and the teacher was a woman in charge of the basketball team.
She eventually got fired after the evidence that amounted became too great.
They need to stop letting military recruiters and republican
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lettingmilitaryrecruitersand republicanpoliticians into high schools
Trump trying to paint DeSantis as a groomer when he himself SA'ed a thirteen year old at a Epstein party is pretty rich
I know about the pictures of him with Epstein, but do we know of allegations which are that specific?
Yes, look into the lawsuit against him that was filed by Jane Doe in NY and then later dropped after she was intimidated.
Yeah. I think the victin filed a civil suit? It was a long time ago but google should still bring up the news articles.
I appreciate that this is the only time, ever, that the right has used the term "groomer" accurately and it's directed at DeSantis.
What remains to be seen is whether DeSantis gets the Dirtbag Bump from this.
yeah, which identical Republican is their guy? I'd go Trump just cause he's more entertaining but at the same time if you're an R who obsesses over CRT, 'woke mind virus' you might get annoyed Trump clearly isn't taking it seriously.
Doubt it. Chuds could not care less about trump and Epstein, so why would they care about DeSantis and whatever he did
They don't actually care about the grooming part, they care that he got owned.
because trump is saying it. similarly, they dont care about trump and epstein because its trump
Their loyalties will go to the cattiest individual, and we know who that is.
I remember how confident my dad was after Biden won that this was it, old Donny is gonna go to prison, no way he could weasel his way out of this jam.
And now they're just letting him run for president again :data-laughing:
How can anyone believe in liberal democracy when this shit happens?
I'm sure my dad's rationale is now something along the lines of how it would be authoritarian for an ex president to face consequences and Biden is too strongly committed to democratic ideals to go down that road. But when Biden won my dad was absolutely sure that Trump was ruined both legally and financially.
I continue to be always right, but I can't take credit. All thanks go to Lenin.
It’s something I notice from my relatives as well. I bring up a point they can’t refute so they change the goalposts or go on a tangent entirely. Of course I don’t want to drag it out too long since I want to preserve our relationship.
To be frank, I can’t be entirely scornful of that since that’s exactly what I did as an evasive tactic when I was a lib/SocDem. It’s scary to actually pull the thread and unravel how the system (which has been sold to you from the very start as “the best option possible”) falls apart when you hold it to scrutiny and wade through the idealistic smog. It does gives me some hope that we can help plant seeds for further radicalization among libs, though.
It can be very disappointing to have your family grasping at straws to prove you wrong, but I don't want to lose the relationship either. It doesn't actually matter what my parents think about the greatness of Fauci and Biden or how terrible it was for China to actually try to contain covid or whatever dumb NYT bullshit.
The sad thing is, my relatives (like my father and various uncles) detest Biden and think he's a tool at best. But some still are holding out hope for the system, and the idea of America they were enamored by when they left their homelands behind and immigrated in the 70s-90s. So I can understand why they sometimes feel defensive.
Another reason of why I don't push is that I don't think I'd be in the position to capitalize on any cracks even if I were successful. I'm not currently involved in political organization or direct action (yet) beyond reading theory so it's not like I'd be offering them any road forward from there.
Democracy is when leaders aren't held accountable because it's too authoritarian against...other rich politicians?
Uhmm, sweaty, he's president, not a king.
:whywhywhywhywhy: You have to respect the office of the president!!!!
It is 2012, Democratic success will destroy the Republican party.
It is 2016, Trump's loss to Hillary will destroy the Republican party.
It is 2020, Trump's loss to Biden will destroy the Republican party.
It is 2023...
This is just a republican civil war that will decide who heads the fascist party.
There does seem to be a non-insignificant amount of republicans who have got themselves wrapped up in Trump and Trump's brand specifically, one loosely decoupled from the GOP.
If DeSantis wins, plenty of Trump fanboys will cope and seethe but ultimately fall in line. However, I don't think it's unfair to say that more than most any other previous candidate, a chunk of his followers will vote 3rd party or not at all.
However, I don’t think it’s unfair to say that more than most any other previous candidate, a chunk of his followers will vote 3rd party or not at all.
Good chance of Trump claiming the Republican leadership votes were rigged and that he actually won.
I predict DeSantis will back down and end up Trump's vice president
Oh god I hope not, that may be the worst case scenario because while Trump distracts the libs DeSantis gets to get up to some real evil shit like an even worse Dick Cheney
Gotta hold out hope that Trump's ego won't allow for a VP who challenged him or has any chance of upstaging him and he does something funnier like pick one of his kids to be his running mate
Trump doesn't seem to mind being challenged he considers that part of a negotiation.
i think Trump considers this sort of back and forth the appropriate way to conduct a business transaction
The idea that either party is going anywhere anytime soon is ridiculous. That said, certain actions could cost them the election. Of course, we all know how inept the Dems are so none of this really matters.
Can someone explain hogs and slop to me please? I haven't read the theory on it.
Back when a particular podcast was a bit less professionalized and a bit more erratic in its release schedule, people would DM Will Menaker on Twitter to inform him that the podcast was not available in a timely manner.
So Will got in the habit of calling his listeners "Pay Pigs". And releases were "slop". And it kinda evolved from there.
As the slop doth touch my snout and doth runneth down my chin I declare, "the lord hath delivered to us this holiest of slops, and we shall dine. For the slop is good."
"yeah, the slop of the Lord, for truly it was by his own grace, yeah, the graceful slop of thine bosom, for which we do now descend, oh Lord of mercy, to taste for the nurture of our souls, most unworthy before thee"
Not quite there yet. Wait until they start slinging "woke" at each other. This is just pillow talk right now.
It's kind of like when you gotta go talk to Hannibal Lector because there's a new killer on the loose.
whoever has the lathe, make it so this gets so messy and outrageous that faith in the primary system collapses at every level and results in some kind of actually transparent and democratic reform for both parties, to quash an independent/3rd party spoil.
or whatever. trump shits himself during a debate and DeSantis trips and cracks his skull on a podium.
I still think the worst thing he did when he was a high school teacher was ranting that the Civil War was not about slavery. The students even made a parody video about him.
The best thing to fantasize about in a hypothetical Communist revolution in America is the complete and thorough campaign to sweep the Lost Cause of the South into the dustbin of history. Like it should have been done under Reconstruction.
Unfortunately he is not good enough of a writer to make a newspaper
I think you could consider Truth Social to be Trump's version of a newspaper.
