:lets-fucking-go:

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

  • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    What I love most about this is how most politicians have a sort of gentleman's (and I'm using the term as looselyand ironically as possible) agreement to not go after each other for certain things, especially the nonce shit but Trump doesn't play by those rules

    Sure it's potentially mutually assured destruction but he just doesn't give a fuck

    The best part is that even if DeSantis responds by going after him for his Epstein connection, Trump has the perfect counter prepared because of how much DeSantis worked on the Epstein cover up in Florida as governor

    I still hate Trump but this whole thing is just :chefs-kiss:

    • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      DeSantis worked on the Epstein cover up in Florida as governor

      excuse me what

      • stinky [any]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        I’m not even surprised anymore. Yeah, of course, he did that. Why wouldn’t he?

      • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        I distinctly remember the state of Florida having a bullshit internal investigation where they found that they did nothing wrong, not unlike every time the cops have an internal investigation into their wrongdoing

        Pretty sure he was governor for that

            • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              I looked it up and I remembered correctly. It was his labor secretary Jim Acosta.

              https://www.npr.org/2019/07/09/739903033/trump-defends-labor-secretary-acosta-over-epstein-plea-deal

              That's when we got the epic :illuminati: line: "He belongs to intelligence"

              • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                Oh you were talking about the 2007 deal, I though we were still talking about the cover up from 2019 on

                Yeah I remember that, also no one seems to want to talk about the Bush admin's Justice department having involvement in that

                Really fucked up how he basically received no punishment and was allowed to leave jail every day for like 10 hours at a time

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Ron "I showed up to student parties when I was their teacher" DeSantis is totally a grooming son of a wretch and he deserves to burn.

    • stinky [any]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Yeah just read that. Apparently, he was a HS teacher who had drinks at his home with his students?

      • Gabbo [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Lol my HS Drama teacher did this during after parties circa 2004. Would not recommend

          • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            :bern-disgust:

            That sucks, the worst my high school had were two young teachers in the 20's who were definitely cheating on their spouses with one another and we all knew it

            Frankly most of us got bored of gossiping about it but it was obvious they were fucking

              • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                One of the teachers in my story was my gym teacher too

                Honestly one of the best gym teachers I ever had, he just let us pick whatever game we wanted to play that day and we usually picked basketball or field hockey or kickball or whatever

                He was even a pretty good teacher for health class (well as much as he could be at a Catholic school where they wouldn't let him teach sex ed) and while he told us that we shouldn't drink alcohol, he also taught us that if we did we should always drink more water than alcohol to avoid or mitigate getting a hangover

                Over a decade later and I've almost never gotten a hangover thanks to him

                • duderium [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  I’ve subbed as a gym teacher and it is by far the easiest job I’ve ever had. All you have to do is tell the kids to have fun, be nice and inclusive, be safe, and clean up when you’re done. They take care of the rest 99% of the time. It’s ridiculous how the vast majority of gym teachers are surly chuds who didn’t have what it takes to be professional athletes.

          • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            that's messed up there were rumors of someone targetting girls at my highschool and the guys would wonder around in groups with the plan of attacking them

            I think I naively assumed that everywhere was like this

          • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            Similar scenario here but it was an all boys school and the teacher was a woman in charge of the basketball team.

            She eventually got fired after the evidence that amounted became too great.

      • Shoegazer [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        They need to stop letting military recruiters and republican politicians into high schools

        • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          They need to stop letting military recruiters and republican politicians into high schools

    • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Trump trying to paint DeSantis as a groomer when he himself SA'ed a thirteen year old at a Epstein party is pretty rich

      • aqwxcvbnji [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        I know about the pictures of him with Epstein, but do we know of allegations which are that specific?

        • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Yes, look into the lawsuit against him that was filed by Jane Doe in NY and then later dropped after she was intimidated.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah. I think the victin filed a civil suit? It was a long time ago but google should still bring up the news articles.

  • AHopeOnceMore [he/him]B
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    2 years ago

    I appreciate that this is the only time, ever, that the right has used the term "groomer" accurately and it's directed at DeSantis.

    What remains to be seen is whether DeSantis gets the Dirtbag Bump from this.

    • threshold [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      yeah, which identical Republican is their guy? I'd go Trump just cause he's more entertaining but at the same time if you're an R who obsesses over CRT, 'woke mind virus' you might get annoyed Trump clearly isn't taking it seriously.

    • 4zi [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Doubt it. Chuds could not care less about trump and Epstein, so why would they care about DeSantis and whatever he did

      • Phish [he/him, any]
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        2 years ago

        They don't actually care about the grooming part, they care that he got owned.

      • bigtimecringe [any]
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        2 years ago

        because trump is saying it. similarly, they dont care about trump and epstein because its trump

  • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I remember how confident my dad was after Biden won that this was it, old Donny is gonna go to prison, no way he could weasel his way out of this jam.

    And now they're just letting him run for president again :data-laughing:

    How can anyone believe in liberal democracy when this shit happens?

    • stinky [any]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      What does your dad think now?

        • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          I'm sure my dad's rationale is now something along the lines of how it would be authoritarian for an ex president to face consequences and Biden is too strongly committed to democratic ideals to go down that road. But when Biden won my dad was absolutely sure that Trump was ruined both legally and financially.

          I continue to be always right, but I can't take credit. All thanks go to Lenin.

          • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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            2 years ago

            It’s something I notice from my relatives as well. I bring up a point they can’t refute so they change the goalposts or go on a tangent entirely. Of course I don’t want to drag it out too long since I want to preserve our relationship.

            To be frank, I can’t be entirely scornful of that since that’s exactly what I did as an evasive tactic when I was a lib/SocDem. It’s scary to actually pull the thread and unravel how the system (which has been sold to you from the very start as “the best option possible”) falls apart when you hold it to scrutiny and wade through the idealistic smog. It does gives me some hope that we can help plant seeds for further radicalization among libs, though.

            • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              It can be very disappointing to have your family grasping at straws to prove you wrong, but I don't want to lose the relationship either. It doesn't actually matter what my parents think about the greatness of Fauci and Biden or how terrible it was for China to actually try to contain covid or whatever dumb NYT bullshit.

              • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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                2 years ago

                The sad thing is, my relatives (like my father and various uncles) detest Biden and think he's a tool at best. But some still are holding out hope for the system, and the idea of America they were enamored by when they left their homelands behind and immigrated in the 70s-90s. So I can understand why they sometimes feel defensive.

                Another reason of why I don't push is that I don't think I'd be in the position to capitalize on any cracks even if I were successful. I'm not currently involved in political organization or direct action (yet) beyond reading theory so it's not like I'd be offering them any road forward from there.

          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            Democracy is when leaders aren't held accountable because it's too authoritarian against...other rich politicians?

            • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              Uhmm, sweaty, he's president, not a king.

              :whywhywhywhywhy: You have to respect the office of the president!!!!

  • BowlingForDeez [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    It is 2012, Democratic success will destroy the Republican party.

    It is 2016, Trump's loss to Hillary will destroy the Republican party.

    It is 2020, Trump's loss to Biden will destroy the Republican party.

    It is 2023...

    • stinky [any]
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      2 years ago

      This is just a republican civil war that will decide who heads the fascist party.

        • stinky [any]
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          2 years ago

          Imo it’ll still be united - this fight is just to decide who rules it.

          • goboman [any]
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            2 years ago

            There does seem to be a non-insignificant amount of republicans who have got themselves wrapped up in Trump and Trump's brand specifically, one loosely decoupled from the GOP.

            If DeSantis wins, plenty of Trump fanboys will cope and seethe but ultimately fall in line. However, I don't think it's unfair to say that more than most any other previous candidate, a chunk of his followers will vote 3rd party or not at all.

            • Awoo [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              However, I don’t think it’s unfair to say that more than most any other previous candidate, a chunk of his followers will vote 3rd party or not at all.

              Good chance of Trump claiming the Republican leadership votes were rigged and that he actually won.

            • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              Oh god I hope not, that may be the worst case scenario because while Trump distracts the libs DeSantis gets to get up to some real evil shit like an even worse Dick Cheney

              Gotta hold out hope that Trump's ego won't allow for a VP who challenged him or has any chance of upstaging him and he does something funnier like pick one of his kids to be his running mate

              • edge [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                and he does something funnier

                It’s gonna be Mike Pillow.

              • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Trump doesn't seem to mind being challenged he considers that part of a negotiation.

                i think Trump considers this sort of back and forth the appropriate way to conduct a business transaction

    • Phish [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      The idea that either party is going anywhere anytime soon is ridiculous. That said, certain actions could cost them the election. Of course, we all know how inept the Dems are so none of this really matters.

  • Weedian [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Between this and the torture at Guantanamo I don’t think I like this guy

      • Jean_Brun [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Can someone explain hogs and slop to me please? I haven't read the theory on it.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          2 years ago

          Back when a particular podcast was a bit less professionalized and a bit more erratic in its release schedule, people would DM Will Menaker on Twitter to inform him that the podcast was not available in a timely manner.

          So Will got in the habit of calling his listeners "Pay Pigs". And releases were "slop". And it kinda evolved from there.

    • DickFuckarelli [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      As the slop doth touch my snout and doth runneth down my chin I declare, "the lord hath delivered to us this holiest of slops, and we shall dine. For the slop is good."

      • mars [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        "yeah, the slop of the Lord, for truly it was by his own grace, yeah, the graceful slop of thine bosom, for which we do now descend, oh Lord of mercy, to taste for the nurture of our souls, most unworthy before thee"

    • ComRed2 [any]
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      2 years ago

      Where's a mike lindell emoji when you need it.

  • betelgeuse [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    It's kind of like when you gotta go talk to Hannibal Lector because there's a new killer on the loose.

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    whoever has the lathe, make it so this gets so messy and outrageous that faith in the primary system collapses at every level and results in some kind of actually transparent and democratic reform for both parties, to quash an independent/3rd party spoil.

    or whatever. trump shits himself during a debate and DeSantis trips and cracks his skull on a podium.

  • ComradeLove [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I still think the worst thing he did when he was a high school teacher was ranting that the Civil War was not about slavery. The students even made a parody video about him.

    • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The best thing to fantasize about in a hypothetical Communist revolution in America is the complete and thorough campaign to sweep the Lost Cause of the South into the dustbin of history. Like it should have been done under Reconstruction.