I'm only thinking about this bc I just had surgery and I'm on oxy for the first time in 17 years, but, like...

Doctors really claim, like as a profession, that they just didn't know fucking opium was highly addictive and oopsie woopsie did a little fucky wucky and now like a million people are dead?

Cause I really never thought about that, but I took 1 "take 2 every four hours" pill SEVEN FUCKING HOURS AGO and I am still tripping balls and in my current altered state their cutesy little "We just forgot morphine was dangerous" shtick sounds pretty fucking ridiculous.

Oh and the DEA and FDA must have been in on this, too, right? The whole time? Because no one would actually be stupid enough to believe this shit, right?

  • forcequit [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    nah it's totes safe bro, trust

    fr tho don't take more than you need to manage the pain, don't ride it beyond that. Shit will sink its teeth in the moment you let it

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      I've taken one pill since I got out and I'm fucking done. If I can ride this out on ibuprofen and tylenol I'm doing it. I never, ever take pain meds so I forgot how weird and unpleasant oxy is.

      • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Yeh I had wrist surgery last year and shit hurt like fuck for maybe 12-18 hours after the surgery, most of which time I was sleeping off the anaesthesia. I had a coupla oxies in the hospital after waking up and they gave my like 10 or something for at home but I was able to make it through with ibuprofen, paracetamol and ice/heat packs.

      • Barabas [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I had to do them for a couple of weeks as I was in an operation que with badly set bones that hurt like he'll. Shit sucked ass. Couldn't focus on anything, and I'm spaced out enough as it is. Also gave me constipation.

        Still have a pack with 50 left as I didn't want to take them for more than a couple of days after the operation.

      • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        A few summers ago, I had a mild sunburn that turned into some kind of bizarre-ass sun allergy. It felt like a colony of fire ants crawling underneath my skin where the burn was, and the pain was so constant and intense that I was ready to [REDACTED] myself into a moving [REDACTED]. Aloe and lidocaine helped the surface of the burn itself, but not the histamine reaction underneath it. Before we figured out that it was a histamine reaction (and could be treated with just Benadryl or some such), I got into my partner's stash of post-birth pain meds from a few years before. One Vicodin completely got rid of the fire-ants-in-my-body sensation, but only for about 8 hours. For a day or two before the burn healed on its own, that was seriously the only way that I could sleep or function like a normal human.

        When it happened again a year later (I didn't have as much sunscreen on as I thought I did), that was when I had the "hey, this is probably histamine" thought and tried dosing with the OTC allergy stuff. That worked, and I didn't end up needing to go on a three-day codeine bender. Personal opioid crisis averted, I guess?

        • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Doc gave me Vicodin after I got my wisdom teeth out. I was totally thinking that at least the drugs would be fun. Nope! Turns out I'm allergic to Vicodin and I puked my guts out continuously until I was able to get a drug that made me stop vomiting. Which was a suppository. So my whole face hurts, I can't stop puking, and now I have to shove a big pill up my butt. That was a very bad day, but at least it's funny now.

            • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              Doctor: Don't use a straw, you might dislodge the clots.

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      • cosecantphi [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Damn, as someone who went through the hellish nightmare of opioid addiction in the US and barely came out of it alive, I am perpetually amazed at the existence of people who don't like the way opioids feel. I remember taking my first hydrocodone pill and literally feeling like I had found the answer to everything.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          I have severe depression, executive function problems, and a lot of other nasty mental health problems due to adhd and bipolar disorder. Anything that impairs my cognitive function in unexpected ways makes me immediately, extremely uncomfortable.i don't drink alcohol and only use legal thc to deal with pretty severe anxiety episodes. My brain is just too broken to find any additional impairment enjoyable. It's usually more towards horrifying.

          All of that together means the only time's i've done recreational drugs are when there was a suggestion they could relieve depression. I think the perspective from which i experience mind altering drugs is very different from most people, which may be why we felt so differently.

          • cosecantphi [he/him, they/them]
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            2 years ago

            any additional impairment

            I think that's probably the important thing here. It seems you perceive the sensation of an opioid high to be impairing, like alcohol is. I totally understand why many people wouldn't like that even if I do.

            The way I perceive an opioid high seems to be different in a way that predisposes people like me toward opioid addiction. When I use opioids I don't feel impaired at all (even if I definitely am!). I just feel this profound sense of calm and comfort, like everything is fine and it'll all work out in the end. For a while I thought it had cured my depression and anxiety. That is what many opioid users call the honeymoon phase. Unfortunately it ends once your tolerance reaches a certain point and you become very physically dependent, then the nightmare begins. But it seems there's a large subset of people who don't go through that honeymoon phase at all, and are thus less likely to get addicted.

            • Frank [he/him, he/him]
              hexagon
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              2 years ago

              It is wild how differently two people can react to the same substance. I have bipolar disorder, and for one reason or another bipolar people tend to be extremely vulnerable to habit forming substances, but i've never felt pressure to use anything outside strictly functional contexts. But then right beside me is someone who has been using alcohol to treat symptoms for decades.

              It's just bizarre. I think most people think of themselves as "normal" but then you start to realize how much variation their is in people and how deeply, deeply weird that feels. Like i could ruin someone's hard-earned peace just by casually offering them a beer, but me being offered a beer is no danger at all.

    • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah, the handful that they give you for post-surgery recovery aren't going to turn you into Axl Rose overnight. Still, don't stay on them for any longer than you absolutely have to, and if you have chronic pain, you're pretty much boned. Might as well get the pleather pants and start working on an off-key rendition of "Paradise City" now if you aren't in a state with medical weed.