https://nitter.pussthecat.org/ninaism/status/1623273497479749632

  • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    People are like "AI will plunge us into a world where we cannot discern truth from lies" but it's more like "AI will plunge us into a world where photographs are not considered serious evidence without extensive provenance attached"

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Are you ready for a future where the libs cry for war against China using an obvious deepfake and anyone pointing it out is called a bot?

      • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Well we already have a present where they do that without a photograph

      • Lurker123 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Weren’t the Uighur prisoner photos like 6 months ago?

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The nice thing about AI being accessible is that if you can figure out the prompt, you can regenerate an image

      • Outdoor_Catgirl [she/her, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        The thing is that ai is random generation for the initial seed so you can't actually get the same output for same initial prompt

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Yes, but you can traverse the state space by iterating through the seeds. Which means if you wanted you could find the exact match, but all you really need is something that's 80% a match to tell that it's generated

          • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            this is one of the reasons I'm not as terribly afraid of AI as a lot of people seem to be. Seems like there are going to be very clear ways to run an AI image backwards through some process to identify certain features as computer generated. I don't know shit about programming or machine learning, but if an AI is able to make an image, it seems reasonable to me for a different AI to have the ability to deconstruct it and show exactly how the image was created.

    • VernetheJules [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      without extensive provenance attached

      perhaps if they existed on some kind of decentralized ledger :thonk:

    • solaranus
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      edit-2
      1 year ago

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