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why does the site ask for pronouns when you sign up
Removed by modmight be the wrong place to complain about this idk honestly weird design choice. would prefer for their to be an opt-out option but i don't really see that here.
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The primary reason for having the pronouns mandatory is to prevent misgendering and alienating trans people.
The secondary reason is to out and alienate bigots, who always have to show their asses and complain.
Nothing more suss than a new account posting bait with neopronouns
Not that neopronouns are bad, they’re just wrecker catnip
you're literally using the opt out option. And what's so confusing? other social media does it too, we were just first.
not as something that appears next to their name all the time. looks weird and janky. there's also no way to sort of "fill" in the pronouns with any custom pronouns or text, and i probably wouldn't care as much if you could fill it out. other sites that give you pronoun options usually give you a fill in option and don't make it as mandatory. people are already misconstruing this as hateful, but i just would have preferred something that gave you more choice.
well I hear the devs are supposed to be working on custom flairs, which seems to be what you want. As for them being "janky" I would recommend just dealing with it? Next to the name is where all the other information goes so I don't think there's a better place. If it is really making you uncomfortable for some reason I'd recommend doing some self reflection because it ain't a design problem
Wasn't it originally open for anyone to write the pronouns they wanted, but they closed it off because wreckers were abusing the feature? And isn't the way it works now that you can message the mods if your pronouns aren't in the list?
Wasn’t it originally open for anyone to write the pronouns they wanted, but they closed it off because wreckers were abusing the feature?
I could be misremembering but I don't think that was ever implemented, though the idea was floated and was shot down for fear of abuse. The pronoun flair struggle sessions were wild, the last few feel pretty tame compared to the ones early on.
Right. We considered it making an open text field but settled on the decision to make it an accept-list before it rolled out. It probably wouldn't make much of a difference now, but at the time we didn't know how much this place would grow, or how many trolls it would attract. There were quite a few trolls in the early days, and a bunch of tailists who eventually got driven out.
The decision to have people opt out of the feature instead of opt in was made because on many social media sites, if trans people are the only people using tags like this, it makes them much easier to single out and harass. It is like this because that is how the community decided they wanted the site to work. The implementation has some rough edges, but it works.
That sounds about right, I may have misremembered it being implemented. It would pretty likely be abused indeed so it does make sense they decided on the current system.
people are giving you a lot of shit because we have had many trolls come in with these exact questions before and a lot of general "drama" around the pronouns feature. So the community comes down hard on pronoun criticism. If you aren't a troll that's cool and don't worry people won't always be so rude to you here.
yeah that makes sense now. in retrospect i maybe should have been less blunt.
What other social media does it? All my existing accounts have never forced me to update my pronouns
it's pretty objectively the correct design choice. would you prefer a carrier pigeon that crashes through your window with a little slip of paper containing the gender of the person you're talking to?
would you prefer a carrier pigeon that crashes through your window with a little slip of paper containing the gender of the person you’re talking to?
:yes-comm:
Ideally one would refer to other users as user/poster/comrade, imo. But a lot of people on the internet end up using he/him pronouns for any unknown person. This usually prevents that.
It's also a nice little reminder that there's a real person behind that username you're engaging with.
The entire reason "comrade" was invented was to eliminate differences between people.
