• GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Thats how they get ya. They are malicious. If you act with hate to things you are ignorant about, you're malicious. They overturned roe v wade yo. I prefer them as an enemy because they recognize themselves as such and act accordingly. One has embraced false consciousness as a core component and you will never shake them of that and the other thinks they've already shaken their false consciousness and therefore any criticism is taken as criticism from the right.

    Here's the cool thing tho. It doesn't matter at all to us! we don't need to care about which lost cause is less of one. A fuckload of people think both parties are trashbags and a hell of a lot just don't vote. Kill the wonk in your head. They are both liberal democrats with culture war differences and they're both my enemy for that reason. Simple as.

    • Staines [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      I would have previously agreed, but I've seen a few american republican acquaintances pull stunning reversals over the past few years to actually become serious marxists. I get what you're saying but it hasn't been my observation. I don't have anything of particular clarity to say... but it seems to me that workers are foremost workers, and conditions plus empathy can lead to significant changes in outlook even from chuds who's perceptions used to disgust me.

      Personally, I hope that is the case, and not "wonk".

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        It depends on the chud. Materialism rears it's beautiful face again, what led to this person being a chud? Was it a false consciousness against immigrants and minorities that is fed to the working class or are they from owner backgrounds where they draw an actual material gain from maintaining that image? What is motivating their Chuddery?

        I would consider the former to count among the disenfranchised, just in a different way. Disenfranchisement contains a lot of subcategories. Hell nazis are disenfranchised, but you gotta recognize the subtleties and reasons why one chud can be moved and not another or you're gonna waste a lot of time.

        • Staines [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          That's the thing, materialism doesn't care about red team vs blue team political self identification.

          It's much more in depth than that.

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      2 years ago

      If everyone is hostile and will never stop being hostile, and we can't just silence them, what do we even do?

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Second paragraph.we appeal to those who are disenfranchised and do better at it. We need a dedicated and large enough plurality, not a majority.

        Edit: once we have that ohhhhhh how they'll become silenced.